Look at this CO2 system....

SNPiccolo5 · 12-07-2002, 04:47 PM

What does everybody think of the CO2 system seen here? You get a tank, regulator, and neeld valve for $99. Then all you have to do is order the tubing and a check valve and you'll be set. Would this be a good system to buy, or would I be better off getting a tank etc... locally?

-Tim

cvarcher · 12-07-2002, 06:28 PM

Hi,I saw this ad also but if you read the list of items its only the regulator,solenoid asnd needle valve.You need to buy the tank ,tubing,and reactor,check valve too.

SNPiccolo5 · 12-07-2002, 11:32 PM

Lol! Good thing I don't act on impulse!

-Tim

m.lemay · 12-07-2002, 11:43 PM

Plus. Check out the post under vendor reviews. They're on pretty shaky ground. M3 used to be the cats meow, but somethings not right in "marine monster land" lately.

SNPiccolo5 · 12-08-2002, 03:30 AM

Hmmm. Looks like I'll have to find another source for my CO2 tubing and needle valve. Even if the CO2 system was a good deal, I don't think I'd get it... Thanks for the warning info!

-Tim

ridns · 12-09-2002, 02:03 PM

I can remember at least one person who was thoroughly displeased with the service he recieved from this outfit. It seems they have lost all credibility since they were taken over by another company.

:hehe:

lanstar · 12-10-2002, 04:45 AM

Here's what I hope might save you some money if you're putting together a system from components...

I found a very good and very inexpensive needle valve ($8) at a model airplane store. I installed it in the hose line, right before the bubble counter. Take a sample of your tubing and explain to the folks at the model airplane store what you need.

The one I found had a hose barb on the input side that was threaded. I had to remove it and wrap some teflon tape around the threads to stop it from leaking. I also used some small wire ties to secure the CO2 tubing to the input and output ports. After that, it has worked very well with very fine control of the flow rate.... and very cheaply!

Tim

Rex Grigg · 12-11-2002, 05:02 AM

Head on over to www.clippard.com and find a distributor in your area. Get a MNV4-K2 needle valve. It comes with two hose barbs and works great. Cost is just about $11 and it's the same one sold elsewhere for much more money. If you don't have a distributor I will be more than happy to pick one up for you and mail it out.

ridns · 12-11-2002, 02:02 PM

That looks like a good site Rex, thanks for the info!

:hehe:

jart · 02-17-2003, 07:06 PM

rex,

seems to me somewhere along the line, someone mentioned there was a pita factor involved in setting up a co2 system from scratch. today, after several hours on the phone, i have confirmed this:hehe:

well, as you suggested, i had most success dealing with a home brew shop. $109 for a 10 lb tank, $79 for a regulator. before anyone doth protest, these are cdn funds. so it's pocket change for you south of the border types.

i would be interested (definately) in one of those MNV4-K2 needle valves. you are suggesting that it would fit any regulator?

i think it might be best to buy a needle valve, then take it over to the home brew place and let them hook it up. us health pro geek types had best leave these things to nobler men. a marine i ain't!

as an aside, just happened to be talking to a buddy of mine yesterday who recommeded the home brew shop. seems he had bought a brewing kit for christmas for, get this, his girlfriend. made me think of the episode where homer buys marj a bowling ball for their anniversary.

Rex Grigg · 02-17-2003, 10:51 PM

Well there are a couple of way to hook the needle valve into the regulator. One is to hook it to the regulator, which means you need a couple of adapters. One of which you must get from Clippard if you use their needle valve. The other is to run a hose barb from the regulator and then put that hose on one barb of the MNV4-K2 and the other barb with hose to the reactor. If you chose this method many times you can find what you need at the BORG.

jart · 02-17-2003, 10:59 PM

i'm sorry man, what is the borg?

thanks (again)

Rex Grigg · 02-18-2003, 12:53 AM

BORG = Big Orange Retail Giant, aka Home Depot, but also used to describe Lowe's.

**Buck** · 02-18-2003, 01:34 AM

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe: LMAO !

jart · 02-18-2003, 02:19 AM

ahhh... i see the light. we actually have a home depot here now, but no lowe's as i know it.

the nearest distributor for the MNV4-K2 seems to be about a zillion miles away, but i'll see what i can do.

frustratingly, the inventory at home depots seems to vary, even in canada. i found that out when i was looking for a ballast.

regards, and thanks.

12-07-2002, 04:47 PM	#1
SNPiccolo5 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859	What does everybody think of the CO2 system seen here? You get a tank, regulator, and neeld valve for $99. Then all you have to do is order the tubing and a check valve and you'll be set. Would this be a good system to buy, or would I be better off getting a tank etc... locally? -Tim __________________ Tank in transition! 55 gallons, hard water.

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SNPiccolo5 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859	Lol! Good thing I don't act on impulse! -Tim __________________ Tank in transition! 55 gallons, hard water.

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SNPiccolo5 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859	Hmmm. Looks like I'll have to find another source for my CO2 tubing and needle valve. Even if the CO2 system was a good deal, I don't think I'd get it... Thanks for the warning info! -Tim __________________ Tank in transition! 55 gallons, hard water.

12-09-2002, 02:03 PM	#6
ridns Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rockford,IL Posts: 349	I can remember at least one person who was thoroughly displeased with the service he recieved from this outfit. It seems they have lost all credibility since they were taken over by another company. :hehe: __________________ Eheim pimp #128, 55gal 13x20x48, Eheim Pro 2227, CO2 injected, into the filter breather tube,4x 55w Pcs , 12 hr light cycle (sunrise/sunset simulated), Milwaukee SMS 122, faulty bubble counter replaced with M3 bubble counter..... moderately Planted, Plantex CSM+B and ferts To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research

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lanstar Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin, Missouri USA Posts: 224	Here's what I hope might save you some money if you're putting together a system from components... I found a very good and very inexpensive needle valve ($8) at a model airplane store. I installed it in the hose line, right before the bubble counter. Take a sample of your tubing and explain to the folks at the model airplane store what you need. The one I found had a hose barb on the input side that was threaded. I had to remove it and wrap some teflon tape around the threads to stop it from leaking. I also used some small wire ties to secure the CO2 tubing to the input and output ports. After that, it has worked very well with very fine control of the flow rate.... and very cheaply! Tim __________________ Chief 51, Engine 511, Engine 513, Rescue 511, respond to an algae outbreak at...

12-07-2002, 06:28 PM	#2
cvarcher Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Old Bethpage ,L.I.New York Posts: 147	Hi,I saw this ad also but if you read the list of items its only the regulator,solenoid asnd needle valve.You need to buy the tank ,tubing,and reactor,check valve too.

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m.lemay Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (9/100%) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naugatuck, CT. Posts: 2,647	Plus. Check out the post under vendor reviews. They're on pretty shaky ground. M3 used to be the cats meow, but somethings not right in "marine monster land" lately.

12-11-2002, 05:02 AM	#8
Rex Grigg Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (65/100%) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland Orygun Posts: 9,600	Head on over to www.clippard.com and find a distributor in your area. Get a MNV4-K2 needle valve. It comes with two hose barbs and works great. Cost is just about $11 and it's the same one sold elsewhere for much more money. If you don't have a distributor I will be more than happy to pick one up for you and mail it out.

12-11-2002, 02:02 PM	#9
ridns Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rockford,IL Posts: 349	That looks like a good site Rex, thanks for the info! :hehe: __________________ Eheim pimp #128, 55gal 13x20x48, Eheim Pro 2227, CO2 injected, into the filter breather tube,4x 55w Pcs , 12 hr light cycle (sunrise/sunset simulated), Milwaukee SMS 122, faulty bubble counter replaced with M3 bubble counter..... moderately Planted, Plantex CSM+B and ferts To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research

02-17-2003, 07:06 PM	#10
jart Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NS Canada Posts: 1,358	rex, seems to me somewhere along the line, someone mentioned there was a pita factor involved in setting up a co2 system from scratch. today, after several hours on the phone, i have confirmed this:hehe: well, as you suggested, i had most success dealing with a home brew shop. $109 for a 10 lb tank, $79 for a regulator. before anyone doth protest, these are cdn funds. so it's pocket change for you south of the border types. i would be interested (definately) in one of those MNV4-K2 needle valves. you are suggesting that it would fit any regulator? i think it might be best to buy a needle valve, then take it over to the home brew place and let them hook it up. us health pro geek types had best leave these things to nobler men. a marine i ain't! as an aside, just happened to be talking to a buddy of mine yesterday who recommeded the home brew shop. seems he had bought a brewing kit for christmas for, get this, his girlfriend. made me think of the episode where homer buys marj a bowling ball for their anniversary.

02-17-2003, 10:51 PM	#11
Rex Grigg Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (65/100%) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland Orygun Posts: 9,600	Well there are a couple of way to hook the needle valve into the regulator. One is to hook it to the regulator, which means you need a couple of adapters. One of which you must get from Clippard if you use their needle valve. The other is to run a hose barb from the regulator and then put that hose on one barb of the MNV4-K2 and the other barb with hose to the reactor. If you chose this method many times you can find what you need at the BORG.

02-17-2003, 10:59 PM	#12
jart Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NS Canada Posts: 1,358	i'm sorry man, what is the borg? thanks (again)

02-18-2003, 12:53 AM	#13
Rex Grigg Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (65/100%) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland Orygun Posts: 9,600	BORG = Big Orange Retail Giant, aka Home Depot, but also used to describe Lowe's.

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02-18-2003, 02:19 AM	#15
jart Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NS Canada Posts: 1,358	ahhh... i see the light. we actually have a home depot here now, but no lowe's as i know it. the nearest distributor for the MNV4-K2 seems to be about a zillion miles away, but i'll see what i can do. frustratingly, the inventory at home depots seems to vary, even in canada. i found that out when i was looking for a ballast. regards, and thanks.

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