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Old 07-04-2013, 12:42 AM   #1
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What water parameters do I need?


I am planning on getting blue diamond shrimp in the near future and want to get my current 20 gallon long ready to house them. Right now I have a few malawa shrimp with an amano shrimp and use tap water. I just got an RO water filter running so I want to start using it for water changes. From what I have read it seems that a PH of 7.5 and a pretty high GH are the best parameters for Diamond shrimp.

Along with the diamond shrimp and malawa shrimp I want one other shrimp species. I really wanted CRS because of their bright white and red to contrast the darker diamond and malawa shrimp but I do not want to threaten the diamond shrimp by changing the water parameters to suit the CRS. From what I have read the only other bright colored shrimp that would work with the diamond shrimp parameters would be tangerine tiger shrimp. Are there any other shrimp that have bright colors like the CRS that can be kept in the water parameters preferred by diamond shrimp??

Does anyone keep Diamond shrimp with CRS? I am looking at either the saltyshrimp bee shrimp mix or the GH/KH+ to remineralize the water. If the diamond shrimp are my primary concern which RO mix will be the best choice?
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:48 AM   #2
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i got blue diamonds, CBS, CRS, and OEBT all in one tank.

my para:
ph: ~7
GH: 6
KH: 0~1
temp: 70~71
TDS: ~210

they all living fine and produce babies
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Do you get that from your tap? Or do you use RO water?
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:37 AM   #4
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If you're only keeping Blue Diamonds I would aim for something like this:

pH 7-8

TDS 300

Temp 74

The TDS would be reached through remineralizing your RO water. Personally I don't measure GH and KH after I remineralize and only go for a target TDS.

Water changes 20% every 2 weeks roughly. Or just continue to keep the same if TDS isn't rising.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #5
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Depending upon the product you're using, you'll need to test for GH and KH to know how much remineralizer you need. You can't rely on TDS until you know that part like the back of your hand.

When it comes to Blue Diamonds, you should be fine with a GH of 7-8+. Some KH is good for them, too.

What remineralization product do you plan to use?
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I am looking at either the saltyshrimp bee shrimp mix or the GH/KH+ to remineralize the water. If the diamond shrimp are my primary concern which RO mix will be the best choice?
I am debating between the two depending on which will be best for the diamonds. I would also like to be able to keep CRS but care more about the diamond shrimp since I plan on getting cheap CRS. Would either be good or would the GH/KH be better for the diamonds?
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GH/KH+ would be better for Neos. It's my favorite remineralizer for them. Though, you could use something like Kent R/O Right if you wanted.

For Caridina, definitely go with Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+.
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Would CRS survive with GH/KH+ or would I need to find another species compatible with the water parameters it makes?
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Ideal params for CRS would be something in the neighborhood of GH 5 and KH 0.
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So what parameters does the saltyshrimp GH/KH+ produce?
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Salty shrimp increase gh but not kh, so when I remineralize using it I get TDS of about 140, gh of 5, and 0 kh. Using RO water of course.
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I'm right in the same neighborhood as PuddlesAqua. One level scoop in my 5 gallon jug gives me KH of 0, GH of 4, TDS of 88, and pH of 6.0-6.1 using RO water out of my BRS 5 stage system.


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Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+ increases GH.

Shrimp Mineral GH/KH+ increases both GH and KH.

There are several Salty Shrimp products available.

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Salty shrimp increase gh but not kh, so when I remineralize using it I get TDS of about 140, gh of 5, and 0 kh. Using RO water of course.
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Oh jeez you're right. Definitely didn't read it right.
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One level scoop in my 5 gallon jug gives me KH of 0, GH of 4, TDS of 88, and pH of 6.0-6.1 using RO water
Thats a pretty low PH. I guess to be safe I will just go with the GH/KH+ for the diamond shrimp. It looks like it takes different dosing and has a higher TDS. If I understand correctly it is PH ~7, GH 6, KH 3, and TDS 300 (or are Microsiemens different than TDS?)
http://www.exofish.shopfactory.com/c..._Minerals.html
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