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Old 06-15-2013, 03:59 AM   #1
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Thinking about going filterless for my 10g betta tank.


I have some MTS left over from dirting my 40b, so I am considering converting my 5g betta tank to a Walstad. I have done some research on the subject, and I have a few plants that I think will do pretty good in this type of tank. Java fern, bacopas, amazon sword plantlets and possibly an anubias. Anyone have any advise for a first time filterless tank?

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Old 06-16-2013, 01:26 PM   #2
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Plants, plants and more plants, that's it.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:44 PM   #3
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Make sure the plants are doing well before adding the betta. I tried the filterless betta tank with plants and soon regretted it because some plants didnt take well so i had decaying plantsadding to the ammonia levels and I have been battling levels of nitrite ever since. I ended up adding a small filter. Good luck
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:13 PM   #4
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i agree set the tank up for a while and allow the plants to get established then add the betta. Make sure they're is plenty of plants though. Elodea,hornwort and crystal wort work well for tanks like these.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:45 PM   #5
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Floating and/or emergent plants are key really. Not being CO2 limited means they can react quickly to any available ammonia.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:59 PM   #6
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Thanks for the tips. I set the tank up last night and added some Malaysian Trumpet Snails. So far so good. I have an anubias, java fern, bacopas, rotala indica, hygro sunset, hygro augustafolia, a few small pygmy chain swords, and some riccia in there now. I'll keep an eye on the water parameters for a bit before adding the betta. I also have a small water pump off of a tetra brand internal filter in there for water movement.
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:37 AM   #7
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Floating and/or emergent plants are key really. Not being CO2 limited means they can react quickly to any available ammonia.
Ignore this one at your own peril.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:35 AM   #8
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Ok, I did some work on the tank today.

Current flora list:

Anachras
2x "banana plant"
Lemon bacopa
Rotala Indica
Misc anubias
Java fern
1x Amazon sword plantlet
Water wisteria
4x Pygmy chain sword
Hygro sunset
Floating riccia

Livestock:

1x Male Delta Tail Betta (Leonidas)
1x African dwarf frog
10x MTS
4x RCS (I will be pulling more from my other tank as I see them)

I am temporarily using a small DIY sponge filter to help with water clarity and to help culture BB.




The star of the show




Another FTS


And the frog
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:37 PM   #9
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Nice!

I had trouble when I had a betta & a frog together as the betta was a pig!

He was a MUCH faster eater than the poor frog.

I ended up getting another tank for the frog so I knew the poor little guy would get enough to eat.
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:05 AM   #10
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Fortunately my betta is probably the most mellow fish that I have. He doesn't even flare up at his own reflection.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:43 AM   #11
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I have 2 frogs in my betta tank. I added duckweed (the small kind) by accident but now keep it in there for them. The frogs go to the top and eat all of it they can get to.

First time keeping frogs and they just crack me up.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:09 AM   #12
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Dan, cool! To those mentioning emersed or floating plants...are there favourites? (I will, of course, google this now)
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I just bought a 10g from the my LFS yesterday for $5! The girlfriend and I spend yesterday evening de-rimming it and transferring everything over. Unfortunately the frog died yesterday afternoon while I was at work. I am thinking about getting some duckweed to replace the riccia, I've heard that it's super invasive though so i'm still unsure. I've also bee contemplating a small diy aquaponics system to try my hand at growing some emersed plants. Thanks for all of the input guys! I'll get some pics of the new tank posted ASAP!
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:18 PM   #14
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You should definitely check out the riparium threads, I just changed my 20g high into a riparium and it's been so awesome. I highly recommend it. You can even use some house plants! I have a ton if pothos vine growing out of mine, and some real riparium plants I bought from hydrophyte. If you are interested I'd PM him.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:35 PM   #15
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Sorry for the late update. As I said before, everything is now in a derimmed 10g. Here's some pics

FTS


Female Golden Wonder Killifish


Male Golden Wonder Killifish


He likes to pose for the camera


Another FTS. Sorry for the glare.
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