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Old 12-11-2014, 09:02 PM   #1
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Rimless Question


I have what I suspect is a Oceanic 55 gallon aquarium that I picked up the other day. The glass itself is dirty but all good, the rim on the other hand is in rough shape on top and bottom. I plan to reattach the bottom rim after painting it to get rid of the fake wood look. The top on the other hand I have been considering removing it. The glass is 3/8in and it has a center glass brace, is this safe to do because it looks like the top rim was never even glued to the other pieces on adjoining corners?





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Old 12-11-2014, 09:17 PM   #2
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That's the way they were built. The trim is just to rest glass lids on, protect you from the exposed glass and be somewhat decorative. The bigger tanks all had 4 very heavy duty mitered sections of trim that didn't add to structural integrity. The beastly wide glass centerbrace is structurally necessary though. Take extra precaution if you remove and replace. I know of more than one that tried and failed. Fwiw, I have a 180G. The worst part is the they were used largely in SW settups and the haze on the centerbrace will most likely remain.
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:54 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info, that center brace will not be removed and the glass underneath the rim seems to be dull. I plan on buying a few jugs of vinegar and going to town on those stains. The previous owner said it was only used for fresh water but who knows if he is the only owner but I cannot fret over a hazy center brace.

These tanks are rather impressive when you compare them to what replaced them, plastic braces and thin glass, although I am not sure if this one has sapphire glass or not, its to dark by the time I get home to get a good look at the glass.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:14 PM   #4
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I got a 120g in much the same condition, except my seal looks great but the center brace fell off. I am going to reseal for to reasons 1. its a used tank and god knows how old it is, so reseal for peace of mind and 2. the center brace fell out which tells me I should probably re-do all the silicone and not just re-install the center. You are backwards from me where your seal looks nasty and still have the center brace. I would still brake the whole thing down and re-seal/re-install the brace.
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Best of luck with it! They were built to different standards, that's for sure.

The "double-wide" brace posed a couple of issues. The biggest is access to the substrate. No I'm not the biggest guy out there, but try getting to the very bottom of the dead center of my 180G. The center brace is two feet wide and the tank is two feet deep. My snorkel is stored under the stand. The second, I think you can see. It just becomes impossible to maintain and ends up a hazy mess. Believe me, there's a big difference in light penetration under that brace, so my plant selection has to be driven by that fact.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:48 PM   #6
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I may just take the tarp off of the tank for the day and let it fill up in this crazy rainstorm we are having here in California, otherwise it might just float away if it is empty. Anyways I will look into resealing, from the few minutes of research I have done in the past it does not seem like something that is beyond me.


Bushkill, thanks for the heads up about the lighting, I had not really thought about that. I currently have one 24" Current Sat+ which I bought for my 20g but I might get another one of them and figure out a way to mount a light on the underside of that brace and work around that for plants.
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Old 12-11-2014, 11:03 PM   #7
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Stronger acid than vinegar.
What worked for me:
Citric acid, sold in grocery stores in the spice section, called 'Sour Salt' combined with lemon juice.
Alternately scrub and let it soak. (Paper towel soaked in lemon juice.)
WEAR GLOVES! Eye protection may be optional (but I wear glasses)

CLR is another good one to remove mineral stains.
That sort of glass brace can pick up the minerals from fairly soft fresh water, so it may not have been used for a marine tank. I have several tanks with something similar. But I clean them fairly often.
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Old 12-15-2014, 02:17 AM   #8
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Thanks for the advice, I hope to start working on it next weekend.
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