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Old 09-07-2006, 03:59 PM   #1
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Need Well-Rooted, Super-Low Light Plant(s).....56K Warning!


Hi Everybody,

Attached are Some pix of my Newest Acquisition--Acrochordous javanicus. Its food is Feeder Goldfish--Generally Comets. Of course, they eat Plants. So, I am searching for one or more Good Low-Light to Super Low-Light plants that I can use in the setup below. The snake is irrelevent, so please don't be intimidated in responding because of that. It seems that whenever I inquire about something for my Chinese watersnake tank--Folks are leary about responding. Don't Be! Just looking for some "Planted tank" guidance here--and I'll make all the final calls anyway.

I need something that is Low to Super Low light, Well Rooted and somewhat Goldfish resistant--at least short-term. I am wondering if there are any "Grasses" that would do well in this setup. I have Eleocharis parvula, which is growing slowly and just now (2+ months later) starting to take off in a high light nano, and I have E. tennellus which I think would have trouble staying rooted--and doesn't do very well for me in really low-light. Vals are pretty much out---they get too tall and I need something that will require minimum trimming/interference with the tank.

I have a ton of Anubias, about 11 different varieties, but I am wondering how well they would withstand the periodic activity in the tank.

The tank is a 40g Breeder--36" x 18" x ~12"H. 84-86F. Light is sunlight through a "cracked" Blind and (currently) 2 x 20w SCF in spot-type shop lights. No C02/Excel. Flourite. xP1. Air pump and Airstone. There is currently duckweed (hoping the Comets will eat it) and floating Corkbark (which is permanent).

I just added 1 Leopard Sword and 4 small Compacta Swords with seachem Tabs (from another super-low-light setup), so I will see how they do. Once settled in, they should be well-rooted and "Flexible".

Any other ideas?

Pix below are at night with lights out, but ambient lights and Flash on, and the smear of duckweed is caused by a lower water level while drip-acclimating some Food (fish).









TIA
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:12 PM   #2
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i've found the plant bulbs from walmart to be pretty hardy and when fully grown develop pretty good roots. they cost about $3-4 for a packet... usually a 3-5 bulbs with a pretty good success rate. (not all will develop)
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:18 PM   #3
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I would consider Java Fern... attach them to rocks/wood, possibly grow them out in a different tank (more light) then move them. Very simple aquascaping...
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For a nice tight fit, I've taken java fern and staple gunned it to driftwood. You don't want the staple to crush the rhyzome, so do one or two test runs to see how far they are driven in. I've also used a pencil to stop the staple, and then slipped the rhyzome under and gentle tapped it down tight with a hammer. They will be on there very solid and the staples rust - you'll never know they were there! I've done this for years with no adverse affects on water quality. A staple or dozen won't hurt.
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How do you feel about crypts in this setup?
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:08 PM   #6
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that's a big snake... isnt it too big for that tank size?
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Thanx for the info--there's some good thoughts here.

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that's a big snake... isnt it too big for that tank size?
No, not at all. They spend a lot of their time curled up in their hidebox and then just come partially out for air. When they get hungry they will start to cruise around some at night.

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I have/did/am....LOL, with Jen's thoughts it may work. I have some narrow leaf Java that I was thinking of using, but It really hasn't attached itself very well. So, I kind of discarded the idea. However,....

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For a nice tight fit, I've taken java fern and staple gunned it to driftwood. You don't want the staple to crush the rhyzome, so do one or two test runs to see how far they are driven in. I've also used a pencil to stop the staple, and then slipped the rhyzome under and gentle tapped it down tight with a hammer. They will be on there very solid and the staples rust - you'll never know they were there! I've done this for years with no adverse affects on water quality. A staple or dozen won't hurt.
I agree, and that's a Great idea. I may very well try it. I don't think that any of my anubias will work, because they are just not flexible enough to take the periodic abuse. But the NLJF should be able to weather any storms well.

Thanx Everybody, and any other thoughts are Greatly Welcomed!
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cool snake tank!

what about the amazon swords? or vals? they both have pretty good root systems.

java ferns sound like a great idea

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Any Anubias plants, African Bolbitis fern, Cryptocoryne ciliata, various mosses... grass plants would be marginal at best under very low light. In fact any plant will be marginaly successfull under "very low light".
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Old 09-17-2006, 04:18 AM   #10
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what type of snake is that i cant recognize it?

"edit" didnt read all the way through but its gorgeous just a little bit diffrent from the southern water snakes down here j/k
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