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Old 05-20-2013, 02:51 AM   #1
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Filter upgrade- which one?


I've been thinking about replacing my filter. I have an Aqueon Quietflow 30 on my 25 gallon planted tank. I'm not very happy with its performance. The water is clear enough, but the flow isn't adequate. I keep reading that its important for all the plants to sway gently, and mine are not. I'm considering 3 options:

A) replace current HOB with a cannister
B) add a second HOB to the current one (aquaclear, perhaps?)
C) add a powerhead to current HOB

Which would you choose?

I should say, I'm not keeping cichlids or puffers or other messy eaters and I'm not overstocked.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:58 AM   #2
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You can't go wrong with a canister filter easy to hide work better.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:11 AM   #3
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+1 for the canister. I'll never go back to HOB unless absolutely necessary.
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I use an overflow and sump. My second choice would be a canister.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:23 AM   #5
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I really love my Eheim canisters. I have a 2213 on a 20 gal and 2 x 2217s (one has a 2215 impeller). I would recommend the 2213 for your 25 gallon. It is definitely not overkill. You can drill out the spraybar holes slightly bigger if you want to reduce flow (only go one drill bit size at a time, between tests). I would definitely feel undergunned with a 2211 or smaller in a 20 gal.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:46 AM   #6
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I really love my Eheim canisters. I have a 2213 on a 20 gal and 2 x 2217s (one has a 2215 impeller). I would recommend the 2213 for your 25 gallon. It is definitely not overkill. You can drill out the spraybar holes slightly bigger if you want to reduce flow (only go one drill bit size at a time, between tests). I would definitely feel undergunned with a 2211 or smaller in a 20 gal.
Thanks for the recommendation. I was looking at he eheims, but wasn't sure which one would be best. Too bad canisters cost so much more than HOBs! Never did I think I'd be requesting an aquarium filter for my birthday!
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:00 AM   #7
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Lol - I got my first eheim, the 2213, for my 25th birthday.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:44 AM   #8
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I would go the canister route. Many people will disagree with me, but I recommend getting the odyssea cfs 500. It is only $60 and can filter up to 500gph. Of course, all this flow is too much for your tank, so you can just reduce it to whatever is good for you. Plus, if you ever decide to upgrade to a bigger tank, the odyssea will handle the job just fine.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:46 AM   #9
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eheim 2215
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #10
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If you go Eheim, a 2213 is too small, You'll want at least a 2215.

Fluval also makes canisters you could consider.

If you go the HOB route, you'd probably want to get at AC50 or AC70 so you have some good flexibility with media and such. The flow is easily adjustable, parts super-cheap and such.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:34 PM   #11
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Eheim Professionel 3 250/G65/2071. Great design. The 250 is the current nomenclature. It just replaced the G65, which replaced the 2071.

Perfect for a 25, but ready for something larger as well, with no upgrade necessary. And you know you'll eventually want something bigger. This should take you from a 25, to a moderately stocked 55, with no other filters needed. Your mileage may vary.

I have a G160 & G90 on my 75. I cannot hear them, even with the stand doors wide open. These things are german quality, and almost dead silent.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:55 PM   #12
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i do agree with everyone else that a cannister is pretty awesome.

But if you really are only considering your 3 options, I would recommend switching to an AquaClear HOB - the brand is awesome. Get at least a "50" for your 25gal though. And you could either run both for a while until the new AquaClear gets a good amount of bacteria built up, or just move all your media from the old Quietflow directly into the AquaClear, either way.
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:39 AM   #13
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1. Canister. 2. If hob, then marineland. Better to have a full time biowheel wet/dry filter in your hob filter imo, though I am a minority in this view, and will likely be for some time lol. If they can handle my breeding cichlids, then they can handle most applications. However canisters will be better filtration.
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:53 AM   #14
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I had the same problem. If you can listen to these guys. Canister filters are the [censored][censored][censored][censored]! But I didn't have the cash so I bought another quiet flow for my 20gal and now have decent flow throughout the tank. Cheap temp fix till I can get a canister filter with a uv sterilizer.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:22 AM   #15
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Thanks for your opinions everyone!

A canister would really be nice, but I'm awfully tempted by the $40 price tag on that AC70... Then my DH would still have to buy me a birthday gift! LOL
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