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Old 08-01-2006, 07:03 AM   #1
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co2 & algae


I just have some a questions about co2 and algae. I have been told if all ferts are good and you have algae it's more then likely a co2 and lighting issue. I am doing the EI method that all the "knowlegdable" people swear by and I am having a breakout of smear, hair, & fuzz algae.

My first question is can to much co2 cause algae. I ask this because I have read that you should check your co2 by leaving your tap water out for 24 to 48 hours and then check it's PH and then have your co2 drop the ph by 1.0 .
My co2 out of the faucet sitting for 48 hours is 8.4. I have my ph at 6.5 by using nothing but co2 to bring the ph down. According to the " graph " my Ph is 70ppm. These things together tells me I have plenty of co2 if not more then I need. I dropped it almost a full 2.0 doing the leaving the water out and it's 30ppm more then the recommended by the graph. My fish are still fine, but at night i do have to add oxygen to the water by an airstone or pumphead or I wake up with a dead fish or 2.
I am having algae problems and was thinking maybe it is the co2 being to high but then again that doesn't make sense to me so I thought I would ask.

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Old 08-01-2006, 07:49 PM   #2
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It isn't the tap water that you should be leaving out for 24 hours and testing for pH. It is a sample of the water that is in the tank. That water may have a different KH than the tap water. But, to answer your question, CO2 is not going to cause algae. Long before you can have too much CO2 for plants or enough to cause any other problems the fish will have died from the CO2 in the water keeping them from getting rid of their blood CO2. Look at the pictures here: http://www.aquariumalgae.blogspot.com/ and see if you can identify what algae you have. Then maybe you can figure out what to do to prevent that type from growing in your tank - with our help, of course.
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I have beard, hair and green spot algae in 2 of my 4 tanks using this http://www.aquariumalgae.blogspot.com/ to identify it. I am doing the EI dosing to a T and doing my weekly water changes. I also have SAE in these tanks but they are not touching it. what could be causing this? My substrate is 75% Flourite and 25% gravel. I have around 4 watts per gallon and have gone from 12 hours a day with the lights on to 9 to try and see if it helps. Any other suggestions?
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Green spot algae reacts pretty quickly to an increase in PO4 - that stops its growth. If you have just a few splotches of it, just increase the PO4 you dose by 50% or so and it should go away. But, if the glass is covered with it, you will probably have to scrub or scrape it off first.

I don't know how big your tank is, but if it is over 20 gallons you have a high light intensity, so it would help to get things under control if you could drop the lighting intensity. Make sure you have good water circulation in the tank, so fertilized water is being supplied to all of the areas of the tank. And, at the risk of being a broken record - start raising the CO2 bubble rate a little at a time. That, plus mechanically removing as much of the algae as you can, should get it under control.
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What's the best way to create good water circulation without driving out the co2?
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As you get more circulation you do increase he usage of CO2, but if you keep the water surface relatively calm, just moving but no ripples, you should be able to keep the increased usage limited. I use a powerhead, but if you can redirect your canister filter outlet flow you can do it with that too.
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Thanks Hoppy for the help. I do appreciate it.
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I had nothing but trouble out of 4wpg. It helped matters tremendously in my tank after I cut one of the banks of lights off.
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