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Old 12-02-2003, 11:36 PM   #1
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There is plenty of talk about the GE Fresh & Salt bulbs. NO T8 at 48" :cry: Actually they supposedly have one but even their web site denies it! It is (or will be) F32T8/AR/FS #92882.

That said is there any opinion about the Phillips Advantage F32/T8/ADV850. Is affordable, highly efficient and reproduces red and blues well.
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:16 PM   #2
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Hmmm, when I look at the Phillips Advantage bulb specs, they are actually VERY similar in red/blue spectral output...

Phillips Advantage 850
Watts: 32
Max. lumens: 9700
Rated lumens: 3100
Effic.: 0.32
PAR uE/s: 46.2
PUR Total uE/s: 22.8
PUR Blue uE/s: 11.5
PUR Red uE/s: 7.2
R/B: 0.63

GE Fresh & Salt (AquaRay)
Watts: 40
Max. lumens: 10000
Rated lumens: 2350
Effic.: 0.24
PAR uE/s: 42.6
PAReff uE/s/Watt: 1.06
PUR Total uE/s: 23.2
PUR Blue uE/s: 12.4
PUR Red uE/s: 7.6
R/B: 0.62

The GE bulbs seem slightly more intense in favor of Photosynthetic intensity (23.2 vs 22.8) and the Phillips somewhat brighter in terms of human perception (3100 lumens vs 2350). But they're very close, overall, and considering the Phillips bulbs are high efficiency T8's, I'm definitely curious about trying them.

Have you found these at Home Depot or Lowe's?
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Old 12-03-2003, 03:43 PM   #3
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Do they have a lot in stock, or is it scarce like the GE bulbs?
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:39 PM   #4
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Using Goggle in search of lighting articles I came across this:

I think it may be posted elsewhere on this site. Nonetheless, the Phillips rated high. The bulb is not a specialty bulb like the fresh/salt but it is designed for office buildings for long tem light output. Tehy came at about the same price about 11.00 a bulb.

Phillips lists these sites for the bulbs (w/o special ordering them)

Name Phone URL Email
Ace Hardware

(888) 455-2800

Colotex Electric Supply Company
(303) 893-0023

Crum Electric Supply
(307) 266-1278

(800) 367-9444

Merchants Paper Co.
(908) 563-3550

Montgomery Ward


Platt Electric Supply
(503) 641-6121




Stoneway Electric Supply
(509) 535-2933


The Home Depot

Value America

Voss Lighting
(800) 928-8677


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Old 12-04-2003, 07:27 PM   #5
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Do they look like this?
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Old 12-09-2003, 12:00 AM   #6
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FYI Home depot sells theese bulbs for $3.79 ea.

It is not the bulb in the photo. It is a Phillips advantage.
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