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Old 04-28-2013, 12:14 AM   #1
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Beginner - How I instant cycled my first tank


Hello all.
I've always wanted an Axelotl but just never got around to it. Recently I thought; Why not just do it? How hard could it be?

So I bought a cheap tank and filter and then started researching. (Probably not a good start) It sounded really hard, 6 weeks to cycle a tank with constant checks. (I didn't feel putting live fish in suffering with Ammonia was right for me)

Then I discovered that you can't buy Ammonia in Australia.

Eventually I decided on going the heavily planted route and using an established filter.

I bought my Axelotl from my local pet store and asked to buy the plants and filter from the same tank. The lady had a confused look and replied you've done some research. (This gave me a small smile which turned to angst when I assumed many people just chuck them in and see what happens)

To finish the story it's been a week now and I haven't had any Ammonia, Nitrate or Nitrite readings and my Axelotl seems happy. I've done twice a day chemical checks and it's all been positive.

For the price of one bottle of instant cycle product I bought a used sponge and 3 plants. I added another 4 plants and for well under $100 I got a 2x1ft (600x300mm) tank, filter, sand, plants, rocks and Axelotl. It's all up and running and now I'm think I'd love a 6ft tank with more tank scaping and more Axelotls but I'll get some experience first.

I hope this helps other confused newbies and I welcome any feedback from those much more experienced.



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Old 04-28-2013, 12:20 AM   #2
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Did you ever test for ammonia? What is the kh of your water, I am afraid that you have not cycled? Nitrification bacteria need a source of food


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Old 04-28-2013, 12:29 AM   #3
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Plants remove ammonia, nitrite and nitrate, but it takes a lot of thriving plants. When you set up a tank like this I have heard it called a 'Silent Cycle', but 'Plant Cycle' seems a better term. The plants also bring in on their leaves some of the beneficial bacteria. People who are new to planted aquariums might not make it the first time out, so I do not recommend the plant cycle. If you have already grown aquatic plants successfully, then this is a very good way to get a fully stocked tank right away.

A cycled filter from a healthy tank is the best source of the correct species of nitrifying bacteria. But think about this: If you remove these bacteria from a thriving tank, what is going to happen to that tank and its livestock? I usually take a small amount of media from several tanks and combine it in a filter for a new tank. Established tanks can handle the loss of a small amount of filter media (25% IME) with no ammonia spike. The bacteria are living on all the filter media, so I will take a sponge from one filter, some bio media from another, some floss from a third... until the new filter is fully stocked with cycled media. Then I will stock with perhaps 50% of the fish that will ultimately live there, and add more over several weeks as the plants get established and the bacteria in the filter settle in.

Bacteria in a bottle is a great source of the right bacteria, if you buy the right product. For many years companies were bottling the wrong species of bacteria, and still are. To get the right species (identified over 10 years ago) look for Nitrospira on the label.
There is a further problem. The old (wrong) bacteria were dormant, and pretty resistant to heat and cold. The right bacteria (Nitrospira and related species) are more sensitive, and must be handled properly during shipping. If not, the bottle might contain only dead bacteria that will not help cycle the tank.

Another safe way to cycle a tank takes 3 weeks. This is the fishless cycle. When done right it will grow enough bacteria to fully stock the tank, and slightly overstock it, even if there are no plants to help out.
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Twice a day API water tests of PH, Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate.
I've done 20% ish water changes every two days.
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Did it ever test positive for ammonia?


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Did it ever test positive for ammonia?


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So you have no nitrate reading either? How many axelotl are in the tank and how many gallons is the tank? Unless the tank if very heavily planted you should be seeing some nitrate if the tank is cycled, as nitrate is the end product of the cycling process.
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