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Old 08-24-2014, 01:59 PM   #436
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I'll totally ship these! I toss them in the trash anyways because the growth is mind blowing. Rotala Round grows twice as fast in air, at least in my experience. The Lugwiga Brevip or whatever it is, grows only green in air, it's beautiful regardless.

Heres the tank before the big tear down, I got more pics on the process but for now, feast yer eyes on thee Rotala (Lugwiga) Brevip.



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I honestly thought no fertilizers and no Co2 in the tank would turn it into complete trash and I would have to redo the tank faster. It's just chugging along, I been harvesting the top growth and placing them in bins with soil. I ran out of bins.

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Aqua Illumination 26 vs --------------------------------- EcoTech vs --------------------------------- MicMol AquaPro - Plant



It's the same Cree XT, Orsam LEDs found in other high end LED fixtures. LED fixtures are a lot like LCD,LED Tv, there is only a handful of "panel" markers yet there are several brands.

To compare the actual product, you don't say "Samsung" vs "Sony" or "LED" vs "LCD", you compare the panel -

IPS
PVA
VA

Each will have their own pros and cons for their respective markets such as movies, graphic design, gaming.

You can do the same for light fixtures, such as

CFL
T5HO
LED (Surface mount vs single)
HID

So when someone says, "yo this fixture be the best dwag"

Show me a tank, don't show me a graph.
There no magical special spectrum, if you have a light that does full spectrum with the ability to control each channel, you got whatever spectrum the other guy has.

"yo dwag, tank needs more blue spectrum"
Raise the blue
"yo dwag, tank be needing more red spectrum:
Raise the red

Ask yourself, how were people ever able to grow lust tanks before LEDs? Don't get me wrong, I love full spectrum because it's great, but my kitchen Phillips 23W CFL were pretty damn great too.

An easy way to determine a general idea of how good the fixture will perform, is to search for tanks using the light and seeing the results for yourself.
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Old 08-24-2014, 02:46 PM   #437
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Yo, dawg, I feels you on the spectrum ish. I was telling this fool that I have been growing plants with normal CFL's, never paying more than like $2 for them.

LED's can be a bit different in the fact the spectrum of a single color LED may be much narrower, but in general, I still believe that output effects color at a much higher level than anything else. I think spectrum should be viewed as something to improve the appearance of coloration within plants, rather than something to improve the coloration of the plants.

I do look forward to hearing your reviews. I do now have two LED fixtures but you are one of the few using multiple types of LED fixtures that have the features I would need to replace/upgrade any non LED fixture (only one now). Most LED fixtures people are using are good, I just bought a Sat + for a new fixture on a new tank and it's cool, but what you are using (and you have more LED experience than most) may actually be what I need to really embrace the technology on a higher level.
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:57 PM   #438
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I do look forward to hearing your reviews. I do now have two LED fixtures but you are one of the few using multiple types of LED fixtures that have the features I would need to replace/upgrade any non LED fixture (only one now). Most LED fixtures people are using are good, I just bought a Sat + for a new fixture on a new tank and it's cool, but what you are using (and you have more LED experience than most) may actually be what I need to really embrace the technology on a higher level.
That is a good choice, I'm loving where LED technology is heading and I feel the merit of the fixture should be place on other things beside "full spectrum", such as



How cool would it be to control our light fixture from the net?

How cool would it be to add a "increase red spectrum during x minutes" once our tank has mature?

What about a higher red spectrum on the left side for your Rotala and a higher blue for your HC Cuba?

The hobby has already proven you don't need LEDs to grow plants but I'm sure thinking LEDs would make it much simpler.

Embrace change! ADA has their AquaSky out for a while, I'm certain that they will release another model, a full(er) spectrum model with something better than on/off control.
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:47 AM   #439
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This tank is amazing!
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:48 AM   #440
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To be able to control the LEDs from your computer or phone would be great. I'm sure it'd be expensive for software like that, but heck, it'd be pretty creative and useful.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:27 PM   #441
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Videos I found, should of recorded more

Old youtube video of me trimming the carpet.

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Hey,

First of all I have to say that you´ve had great succes with the 23 Watt CFL´s. Your aquarium really looks good.

A friend of mine is about to start an aquarium that holds 54 litres. The dimensions are 60 cm x 30 cm x 30 cm. He also owns two IKEA TERTIAL desk lamps and is wondering how many watts he should use. He will be using pressurized CO2, ADA aqua soil and fertilization according to the EI method. Would you recommend to use 23 Watt CFL´s as well? Or perhaps less? The reason he would like to use CFL's is because they're extremely cheap and seem to work well according to this thread. I'd love to help him out with this.

I look forward to your response.
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Old 03-04-2015, 05:38 AM   #443
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Hey,

First of all I have to say that you´ve had great succes with the 23 Watt CFL´s. Your aquarium really looks good.

A friend of mine is about to start an aquarium that holds 54 litres. The dimensions are 60 cm x 30 cm x 30 cm. He also owns two IKEA TERTIAL desk lamps and is wondering how many watts he should use. He will be using pressurized CO2, ADA aqua soil and fertilization according to the EI method. Would you recommend to use 23 Watt CFL´s as well? Or perhaps less? The reason he would like to use CFL's is because they're extremely cheap and seem to work well according to this thread. I'd love to help him out with this.

I look forward to your response.

Thanks Joost!

The height is around 15inch from the substrate and I use (2) 23W 6500K bulbs. Tell him to use bulbs that doesn't stick out of the dome reflectors, there are 42w that fit but I think that is too much. You can decrease the height of the light if you need more light.

I used EI in the past, it should work for him. I'm using Seachem's AquaVitro for all my tanks now though.

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Here is some old pictures I found. If he can save up and use leds, I think it would be a lot better. I went with MicMol's AquaMini and it's much better than CFL. Oh and thanks for posting, I found an old video of the tank that I thought I lost. It's a video of the tank with CFL, I been looking forever for it.

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Old 03-04-2015, 09:31 PM   #444
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Man I should really jump on the opportunity for some of that Rotala. Looking for something to grow out of the back of my tank.

Loved this tank and how you made it work with CFL's. No need for fancy LED's.
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Old 03-05-2015, 04:56 AM   #445
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Man I should really jump on the opportunity for some of that Rotala. Looking for something to grow out of the back of my tank.

Loved this tank and how you made it work with CFL's. No need for fancy LED's.
How the weather like in Alberta? It's freezing cold here in Toronto, maybe when the weather is warmer, you can have the stems for free. It's a super fast grower, great plant under any condition.

Thanks to Joost, I found these two clips of the tank way way way back in the day.

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Old 03-05-2015, 11:22 PM   #446
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How the weather like in Alberta? It's freezing cold here in Toronto, maybe when the weather is warmer, you can have the stems for free. It's a super fast grower, great plant under any condition.

Thanks to Joost, I found these two clips of the tank way way way back in the day.

How does one embed youtube clips?

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Great videos!

Weather varies, it was freezing a couple days ago (-20 ish?), but today it's roughly around 0.

I appreciate the offer man, that'd be awesome!
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That tank looks beautiful! Looks insanely healthy, nicely done. I also really like the desk lamps. Makes me want to paint my clip lamp lights matte black.

I'm up in Sudbury, could I snag a couple stems? Would add some nice variety to my tank. I only have a 10g (tall), so wouldn't want too many (3-4?). I'd pay for any shipping, somehow.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:20 AM   #448
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A definite inspiration, beautiful tank! I am currently planning a 20L, no filter, probably no heater, pressurized CO2 and two 27W CFLs. I came looking for answers if this would work and i certainly found it!

EDIT: I also forgot to mention I'm planning to do a dirted substrate, fingers crossed I don't get too cross with the mess i hear it makes sometimes
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Old 03-19-2015, 10:41 AM   #449
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Great videos!

I appreciate the offer man, that'd be awesome!
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I'm up in Sudbury, could I snag a couple stems? Would add some nice variety to my tank. I only have a 10g (tall), so wouldn't want too many (3-4?). I'd pay for any shipping, somehow.
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A definite inspiration, beautiful tank! I am currently planning a 20L, no filter, probably no heater, pressurized CO2 and two 27W CFLs. I came looking for answers if this would work and i certainly found it!

EDIT: I also forgot to mention I'm planning to do a dirted substrate, fingers crossed I don't get too cross with the mess i hear it makes sometimes
Yes to the Rotala stems, I'll ROAK it. Do you guys have a high tech set up? I can toss in some other plants, just plant them in dirt if you don't have a high light tank.

@fish_fasinated: I hear HC Cuba enjoys cooler water, let me know how the no heater works out. I'm going try to cut back the heat, what temperature are you getting in your tank?
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I haven't set this tank up yet, but I think my 5.5 is roughly 70. My house stays fairly consistant temp wise.
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