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Old 04-16-2013, 07:16 PM   #1
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Don't Release Your Fish!


This is a photo taken at Lake Dunlap last year by TPW Inland Fisheries. They are all plecos. I have also seen some tetras and ciclids in some of the smaller streams.

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Old 04-16-2013, 07:25 PM   #2
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Wow! I knew some places were having problems with pleco but this is amazing!
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:31 PM   #3
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let not focus so much on those releasing them, but instead focus on the fish stores that sell a fish that gets to 2' in length to folks buying 10g tanks.

these common pleco should be illegal to sell.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:33 PM   #4
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let not focus so much on those releasing them, but instead focus on the fish stores that sell a fish that gets to 2' in length to folks buying 10g tanks.

these common pleco should be illegal to sell.
+1, along with a few other species.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:34 PM   #5
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Wow what a haul! I'll bet they're a bear to clean. Plants are an even bigger problem. One stem could cause an invasion. Always freeze or microwave them well before disposing.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:37 PM   #6
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let not focus so much on those releasing them, but instead focus on the fish stores that sell a fish that gets to 2' in length to folks buying 10g tanks.

these common pleco should be illegal to sell.
Exactly. When I first started out, the internet was not omnipresent, and you had to take in good faith that the person selling the fish was a good source of information. Not surprisingly, I was recommended a common pleco for my first tank (15 gallon). That tank also housed a jack dempsey and several red tail sharks, all on the advice of the LFS.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:39 PM   #7
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I wouldn't say illegal, but there should definitely be more information available to people looking to get into aquariums. Thats the main issue I see every time I visit the pet store is just plain misinformation and lack of involvment by store employees. Employees should ask peoples intentions with the hope that they can help them properly set up an aquarium and pick proper inhabitants, instead of just trying to make profits off any dummy that walks in.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:43 PM   #8
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let not focus so much on those releasing them, but instead focus on the fish stores that sell a fish that gets to 2' in length to folks buying 10g tanks.

these common pleco should be illegal to sell.
Totally agreed, my pleco got to be about 8 inches and I had to sell it to a local fish store because he wouldn't fit, and at that time I didn't really know my fish and the fish store failed to warn me also.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:50 PM   #9
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There are a lot of upset pleco fans looking at that picture.

But as hobbyists that often keep highly invasive species of flora and fauna, it is up to us to properly dispose of any and all unwanted plants and animals. Even if it means euthanizing an animal, its better than letting it go into the wild and invading other natural inhabitants' ecosystems.
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I wouldn't say illegal, but there should definitely be more information available to people looking to get into aquariums. Thats the main issue I see every time I visit the pet store is just plain misinformation and lack of involvment by store employees. Employees should ask peoples intentions with the hope that they can help them properly set up an aquarium and pick proper inhabitants, instead of just trying to make profits off any dummy that walks in.
there is plenty of information out there. ignorance on the part of the customer is forgivable, but not for the employee.

while i'm more "less government", i am pro government when it comes to protecting the environment from us. the common pleco should be illegal to sell. or at the very least require proof of proper housing.

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There are a lot of upset pleco fans looking at that picture.

But as hobbyists that often keep highly invasive species of flora and fauna, it is up to us to properly dispose of any and all unwanted plants and animals. Even if it means euthanizing an animal, its better than letting it go into the wild and invading other natural inhabitants' ecosystems.
it definitely is up to us. perhaps we should start developing an infographic to pass out to LFS's
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:01 PM   #11
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I wouldn't say illegal, but there should definitely be more information available to people looking to get into aquariums. Thats the main issue I see every time I visit the pet store is just plain misinformation and lack of involvment by store employees. Employees should ask peoples intentions with the hope that they can help them properly set up an aquarium and pick proper inhabitants, instead of just trying to make profits off any dummy that walks in.
This I completely agree with. This is a problem that I see common with most of your typical box stores. Every once in awhile you will get an employee that will know what they are talking about and ask the questions that need to be asked, but overall it seems like you get people that are working the fish areas that have very little knowledge of what it takes to keep fish.

Yes people should take the time to research what it takes to keep an aquarium planted or not, but not everyone is going to. I have been a part of other forums in which the first post you see someone make is they just setup an aquarium and their fish are dying, or they are having issues with compatibility. Some of these issues could be avoided if the store that was selling these fish to people would take the time to educate their employees and in turn to educate their customers.

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:04 PM   #12
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there is plenty of information out there. ignorance on the part of the customer is forgivable, but not for the employee.

while i'm more "less government", i am pro government when it comes to protecting the environment from us. the common pleco should be illegal to sell. or at the very least require proof of proper housing.



it definitely is up to us. perhaps we should start developing an infographic to pass out to LFS's
Good luck with that. I've seen people try to do this many times and it never works. Big corporations just don't care, and unfortunately the local mom and pop places can't keep up with chain stores without using the same selling practices. If you question people too much they will take their business elsewhere. Not everyone buying aquariums are responsible people that WANT to learn.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:06 PM   #13
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it definitely is up to us. perhaps we should start developing an infographic to pass out to LFS's
Unfortunately, most LFS are just like any business in today's America, they're in to make money. If some dummy wants to buy a fish that don't' fit, they don't care, they're still making the money.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:43 PM   #14
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I've had a couple interesting conversations with chain store employees and managers on this topic. While I don't agree, I can somewhat understand how they would see the following arguement as valid given their endless experience with the death-camp conditions that are the norm for many of their consumer's aquatic efforts:

The vast majority of fish will die from improper handling and neglect; that the consumer would buy such an inappropriate fish is pretty much proof that they're unlikely to be able to maintain it long enough for it to reach a problematic size.
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I've had a couple interesting conversations with chain store employees and managers on this topic. While I don't agree, I can somewhat understand how they would see the following arguement as valid given their endless experience with the death-camp conditions that are the norm for many of their consumer's aquatic efforts:

The vast majority of fish will die from improper handling and neglect; that the consumer would buy such an inappropriate fish is pretty much proof that they're unlikely to be able to maintain it long enough for it to reach a problematic size.
Thats a very ignorant stance on their part. Just because a fish is "probably going to die" doesn't mean they shouldn't care.
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