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Old 04-11-2013, 12:20 AM   #1
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Help! Angelfish inflamed gills labored breathing


I have no idea what is wrong. Tank parameters all normal, did bi weekly 50% wc. Temp is 78. No ammonia nitrites 1ppm nitrates. He has been like this for 4 days now. Tried quick cure dosage to no avail. Can anyone give ideas. He is my large breeder male. Other fish in tank not showing symptoms
I would hate to lose him but he appears to be getting worse. No signs of parasites or external bac infections. Not eating either.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:09 AM   #3
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Weird. Inflamed gills is a sign of ammonia burn...my only suggestion is try melafix to help boost his immune system.
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melafix to help boost his immune system.
Melafix does this?
I hear something new with these products every time it is mentioned.

biweekly 50% sounds like a lot. Somethings in the water like extra chlorine or chloramine.
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Rapid breathing, flared gills.

I say gill flukes. Formalin. Works great!! But the quick Cure should have knocked it down. If you followed the bottle, it might not work on a bad case.

If you are conditioning your water, i would not think that is the problem.

Pm me and i can give you a great treatment if it is flukes.
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50% is actually bi monthly.... every 2 weeks... my bad..

Its not gill flukes.. had them, this is different

As far as chlorine or chloratamine, this started 2 days before my scheduled water change. The previous water change had been done over 2 weeks before that... and i use prime.. so it cant be

as said in the initial post, all params are normal. and water change was just done. This is a well established tank, it cant be ammonia.. plus it read 0pmm

The only other thing i can possibly think is internal parasites. I went through callamanus worms about 2 months ago, but i eradicated them. No one else is showing symptoms. The fish cant be over 2 years old, so its not age
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How many angels are in the tank? How big is the tank? You have substrate in the tank?
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Melafix does this?
I hear something new with these products every time it is mentioned.

biweekly 50% sounds like a lot. Somethings in the water like extra chlorine or chloramine.
I should have clarified in my post. I'm no medical professional, but I know tea tree oil isn't a medicine, it just helps recovery. I've had very good luck using it to help ailing fish revive. Not sure how much of an immune system fish have, but it seems to help them recover. Its especially good on repairing fin damage.
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this is much worse than fin damage unfortunately... im an experienced keeper.. and I have NO idea what this is
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Any chance your sick angel is female? The male in one of my breeding pairs killed the female when she stopped laying eggs. He tore a chunk out of her gills. Another breeder I know told me its instinct for some angels to do that and get rid of the weak or non predictive female
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How long has it been like this? I've seen similar inflammation with my angels when they are fighting for dominance. When they turn to the side to protect their eyes from an aggressor, sometimes they expose their gill flaps. When mine reddened up in the past, I kept an eye on it & the inflammation went away in a few days. NOTE: mine were never bad enough to stop eating, though - that would really worry me w/ an angel. Good luck to you and and your angel
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I'd check the water again. 1ppm for nitrates is a suspicious low reading. I'd give more detail about your tank, filtration, what other fish, what are you dosing, how long have you had the fish, how are you treating the water for water changes etc etc
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How many angels are in the tank? How big is the tank? You have substrate in the tank?
4 angels in the tank. 2 adult males and 2 juvies..... tank is extremely peaceful. There were no fights that i have seen.

Its funny because the other large male in the tank (currently i dont have a female for either of them) actually looks really concerned about the other guy. He checks in on him all the time, just coming up to him and sitting there and watching... Since my female died about 2 months ago to the callamanus worms, i would swear they have become best friends.
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I'd check the water again. 1ppm for nitrates is a suspicious low reading. I'd give more detail about your tank, filtration, what other fish, what are you dosing, how long have you had the fish, how are you treating the water for water changes etc etc
I checked it last night... 0ppm ammonia, 0ppm nitirites, 5ppm nitrates. The nitrates were so low due to me just doing the WC 2 days earlier
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How long has it been like this? I've seen similar inflammation with my angels when they are fighting for dominance. When they turn to the side to protect their eyes from an aggressor, sometimes they expose their gill flaps. When mine reddened up in the past, I kept an eye on it & the inflammation went away in a few days. NOTE: mine were never bad enough to stop eating, though - that would really worry me w/ an angel. Good luck to you and and your angel
its been about 6 or 7 days. They havent been fighting. When i had my previous 2 females in the tank, they definitely fought, but since i lost both of them, no fighting at all. It is both sides, not just one side of gills.
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