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Old 04-13-2013, 05:10 AM   #16
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how much excel to use on 260gal.


Lol, I say pressurized to avoid using the chemical but if that is the route you plan on going document your travels!
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:41 AM   #17
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I'm anti Excel period. With proper maintenance & planning it just is not needed in a low light tank. Too many collateral damage plant deaths don't justify it's use. Especially since Amano shrimp and Ramshorn snails can handle the on going algae maint.

If you want execrated growth (more pruning) and high light demand plants go CO2.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:45 AM   #18
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What plants are harmed from using Excel? I've never heard that, thanks in advance.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:48 AM   #19
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If you're supplementing carbon (regardless of whether its gaseous or liquid) then it isn't low tech. If you want easy maintenance then just forget about it altogether, reduce lighting if needed and adjust your plant list slightly if there's anything very demanding on there.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:47 AM   #20
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Start low light, you are describing a high maintenance low budget tank.

The amount of hassle is determined by your light on the plant/algae side and livestock on water quality.

Pressurized Co2 all the way! Imo, Most algae/growth problems are due to unstable carbon supply. (When light and nutrients are plenty)
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What plants are harmed from using Excel? I've never heard that, thanks in advance.
I've hard problems with crypts & java ferns, other forum members have posted their experiences. Do a little search and you'll find several threads & comments.

This is what Excel basically is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaraldehyde
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:59 PM   #22
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I've hard problems with crypts & java ferns, other forum members have posted their experiences. Do a little search and you'll find several threads & comments.

This is what Excel basically is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaraldehyde
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Also heard that some mosses are sensitive to Excel.
Water wisteria will also grow like a weed co2 or not.
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im going co2. u guys win...
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:57 PM   #25
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HC (one of the plants you listed) and vals melt with gluts.

If you are wanting less trimming why would you go with one of the smallest foreground plants? I remember taking 30min to trim all the HC in a 55g can only imagine how long it would take on a tank of that size. I would go with glosso instead. It will look just as amazing in a tank of that size and less work in trimming than HC

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Good advice about glosso vs hc
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Guys im still confused if i take the hc out the list, can the rest of my plants thrive without co2 and just the light i have plus fertilizers?
What i mean by thrive is not crazy growth but slow and steady growth but healthy and colorful plants.
Im not sure if i should do co2 or metricide 14 or no carbon at all.
Someone organize for me...
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Guys im still confused if i take the hc out the list, can the rest of my plants thrive without co2 and just the light i have plus fertilizers?
Yes.

(you may have too much light running all your bulbs)
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I vote no matricide, if you want true low tech go with lower light plants and low light, if you want plants with color other than green you usually need high light, and with high light you NEED co2.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:39 PM   #30
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i want red colors also...which means i need high light and i need co2...sigh~
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