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Old 04-05-2013, 03:18 AM   #1
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culling?


I have finally found myself at the wall many have hit before me. I am having a very hard time with the how's & where's of this. I know, in nature, very, very few fry survive, but, I need to hear how others might feel about this as I have absolutely run out of room. It's a different cruelty to pile my fish up hoping to give a home to fish others would not take as ugly uncolored or runts. Advice? Opinions?
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I want to give em to my Oscar just fighting with myself over it.
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Old 04-05-2013, 04:33 AM   #4
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When you said culling I thought you meant the freeze/vodka treatment. If your oscar is the alternative toss em in! He will appreciate the live food and it's all natural the circle of life so to speak. I also have problems with culling when it comes to killing it's just hard to do after raising up babies but if they are to become live fish food its WAYYY better than just killing them.
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I say use them as live food or freeze and trash them.
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I am so glad to find so many like minded people! I have been fretting over this since my third batch of eggs never heard of the vodka freeze thing is that considered the most humane second? Feeding the fry is natural & healthy for all. The big fish & the fry with roomy clean tanks...right?
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I meant I've heard of some people dropping them in vodka to kill them and others freezing them. Not a mixed method haha
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Hahaha OK I never heard of either. But... the vodka won't freeze so drop em in? Just kidding I'm glad you guys helped me past this I am gonna make my Oscar happy! Sometimes the simplest things are so hard for beginners.
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I think just the alcohol kills them. The freezer method you just toss em in the freezer in a bag or a small cup of water supposedly it's painless.
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People are willing to waste vodka to kill a shrimp? Never that! I'm sure cheap rubbing alcohol would suffice, no?

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"Aaaahh" said the blind man, "now I see."
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When I bred cichlids, I keep an Oscar as my Quality Control mgr.
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ive heard they go well as a garnish to a dirt martini

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If you have an oscar already, boom - problem solved.

Any aggressive cichlid would do well with live hunting/food scenarios. I know my convict loves it.

For a large group cull, dump the fish into a very near freezing bowl of water. The system shock should cause organ shutdown and death within seconds. This works very well for smaller fish and it's easy to just dump the entire batch afterward, either down the drain or onto the lawn.

For larger fish, the fastest method is simply crushing the head, but it's not for the weak-willed.

Some folks simply use a running garbage disposal. The fish are dispatched quickly, and it's essentially the same method used for culling male chicks in the poultry industry.
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When I bred cichlids, I keep an Oscar as my Quality Control mgr.
wise choice that

Freezing a cold blooded animal is not humane,,, sorry so many think so


Just because it stops moving doesn't mean it's dead. Sever the spine right behind the skull then open a fish up so you can see the heart beating and start an egg timer, I think many would be amazed and a little horrified at how long it remains active. Using ice water until the core temp reaches the 30's brain function remains. I'm not a card carrying member of PETA but aquatic animals can experience distress, panic and (imo) pain. Having an Oscar your good to go OP. For others that don't have a predator tank consider the same chemical used to tranquilize fish for surgery. At a higher dose it puts them down with only mere seconds of distress and the cost is minimal as it relates to what most spend on the hobby.
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