they are still dying
Planted Tank Forums
Your Tanks Image Hosting *Tank Tracker * Plant Profiles Fish Profiles Planted Tank Guide Photo Gallery Articles

Go Back   The Planted Tank Forum > Specific Aspects of a Planted Tank > Shrimp & Other Invertebrates


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-04-2013, 09:56 PM   #1
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

they are still dying


I posted before about my shrimp dying during molts. Thought maybe it was too much protein in the diet so I cut way back on what I was feeding the fish and started supplying zucchini. No changes, I'm down to maybe 4 shrimp it was weird because the Orange shrimp were my very first shrimp and they were doing great and are the last to start dying. The most recent had been the fire reds and they were the first to start dying. A couple babies have survived and grown up and become saddled themselves. Tds 124, ammonia 0, nitrate 0, nitrite 0. Temp is 76, gh 6drops, kh 4 drops. It's my eheim 9 gallon
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-04-2013, 10:38 PM   #2
Soothing Shrimp
Planted Tank Guru
 
Soothing Shrimp's Avatar
 
PTrader: (128/100%)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,593
Default

Did you get the shrimp as adults? Sometimes they have a difficult time acclimating.
__________________
RAOK Club and BBRR Club! My thinking has been invert-ed!
Soothing Shrimp is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 10:51 PM   #3
steven p
Wannabe Guru
 
steven p's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: columbus, ne
Posts: 1,495
Default

Have any other containers you can move them to? Maybe that tank is cursed? I saw better breeding in my 29 vs my 10 when that was my shrimp tank.
__________________
steven p is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 10:59 PM   #4
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

Yes, only the blues were young.
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 11:08 PM   #5
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

If it weren't for my scarlet badis, I'd break it down and start over
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 11:14 PM   #6
seanski21
Planted Member
 
seanski21's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Gainesville, Florida
Posts: 165
Default

maybe there is copper in the water or fertilizer you are using. crustaceans are sensitive to copper.
seanski21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 11:32 PM   #7
mnemenoi
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
mnemenoi's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Spring, Tx.
Posts: 364
Default

Could your Badis have developed a taste for freshly molted shrimp? Your TDS looks a bit low to me, but I keep my neos in far harder water. Mine reproduce and thrive like cockroaches, I even find them breeding in my large Eheims on my Puffer tanks. Our water is 8.2 out of the tap.
__________________
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king" Desiderius Erasmus
mnemenoi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 11:37 PM   #8
Bananariot
Planted Tank Guru
 
Bananariot's Avatar
 
PTrader: (24/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Stony Brook, NY
Posts: 2,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemenoi View Post
Could your Badis have developed a taste for freshly molted shrimp? Your TDS looks a bit low to me, but I keep my neos in far harder water. Mine reproduce and thrive like cockroaches, I even find them breeding in my large Eheims on my Puffer tanks. Our water is 8.2 out of the tap.
+1

Badis and shrimp seem like a bad combination and maybe they are getting them while they are freshly molted.
Bananariot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 11:39 PM   #9
plamski
Wannabe Guru
 
plamski's Avatar
 
PTrader: (59/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Boca Raton,FL
Posts: 1,063
Default

TDS is too low. Make it over 220.What PH do you have. If it less than 7 you will have problems time to time. Zucchini is only water and fiber - like cucumber for us-no benefits at all. Try Kale, dandelion, spinach, nettle etc. What is your WC schedule,what %?
plamski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 02:41 AM   #10
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

I do 50-70% each week. They aren't making it out of the shells so it's not the badis and I've never seen him bother the shrimp. How do I raise the TDS? It actually started when I started running my air stone in the tank, but I only run it at night and don't see how that could be a problem. I stopped all fertilizers( flourish excel and comp) when the problem started. Could too many snails be a problem? MY ramshorn has been very busy.
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 02:42 AM   #11
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

Do you blanch the kale leaves first?
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 02:43 AM   #12
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

Ph is 7.4
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 02:59 AM   #13
assasin6547
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
assasin6547's Avatar
 
PTrader: (5/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Broomfield, CO
Posts: 726
Default

50% water change is, IMO way too much every week. In order to raise the TDS either add something to the water or don't do a water change for a while. Ph looks good.
__________________
How I feel about non-planted aquariums.
assasin6547 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 03:13 AM   #14
dreamwallaby
Algae Grower
 
dreamwallaby's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: magnolia, NJ
Posts: 72
Default

Add what? Is there something to buy to raise the tds? I'll do less on the wc too.
__________________
dreamwallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 04:38 AM   #15
Soothing Shrimp
Planted Tank Guru
 
Soothing Shrimp's Avatar
 
PTrader: (128/100%)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,593
Default

Powdered foods can raise the TDS. and +1 on water changes being too large. %10-20 a week is fine.
__________________
RAOK Club and BBRR Club! My thinking has been invert-ed!
Soothing Shrimp is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Planted Tank LLC 2012