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Old 11-13-2003, 06:44 PM   #31
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Awww, man, now I'm pissed that I just threw a bunch of money into a CF canopy.
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Old 11-13-2003, 06:48 PM   #32
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Don't be. Although the bulbs are more expensive, you have a MUCH greater variety of bulbs right now. T5's are still relatively new to North America so its going to be another year or so before we really see a wide variety of bulb types.
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:10 PM   #33
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Seems we got it all summed up

Only thing is for me is...the only HO T5's I have seen were WAY more expensive than that GE T5.

These were the only other T5's I knew about.
http://www.reefgeek.com/products/cat...ng/104067.html

The Cheep non HO ones only come in a 10k where as the expencive HO ones come in 65k. Thats why I wanted to keep tabs on how the cheep non HO 10ks do for plants
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:15 PM   #34
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You can't really compare.. That is a kit that comes with several bulbs and an Electronic Ballast, end clips.. etc

This is just the bulb

http://www.reefgeek.com/products/cat...ng/104038.html

And that is about right for an "Aquarium Bulb"... the prices are always vastly inflated.
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:17 PM   #35
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Yeah thats what I was kinda thinking...that that kit comes with a lot...but you could DIY and get it a little less i guess.


What is 16c$ in US$?
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:18 PM   #36
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And for even more amusement.. they sell the same bulb I spec'd out earlier.. but at a REALLY high price.

http://www.reefgeek.com/products/cat...ng/104048.html
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:20 PM   #37
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Here is the spectral output of the GE Bulb



Its certainly not great... but its not too bad either... especially for the cost.
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:26 PM   #38
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Yeah thats what I was kinda thinking...that that kit comes with a lot...but you could DIY and get it a little less i guess.


What is 16c$ in US$?
Just over $10
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:28 PM   #39
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It looks like Phillips has hopped on the T5 Bandwagon as well. I use 5000k bulbs over my 90 Gallon tank and my 22 Gallon tank and they are doing very well. These look pretty similar to the ones I use over my 90 though...

http://www.lighting.philips.com/nam/...uor.php?id=577

ALTO® SILHOUETTE™ High Output Programmed Start

Feature: Miniature Bipin Fluorescent Lamps with ALTO Technology
Watts: 54
Bulb: T5
Base: Min. Bipin
Product Number: 046677-13510-3
Ordering Code: F54T5/850/HO/ALTO
Package Quantity: 40
Description: TL 850, 5000K
CRI: 85
Rated Avg. Life (Hrs.): 20,000
Design Lumens: 4750
Nominal Length: 46
Approximate Initial Lumens: 5000
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:33 PM   #40
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Yeah thats what I was kinda thinking...that that kit comes with a lot...but you could DIY and get it a little less i guess.


What is 16c$ in US$?
Just over $10
Wow so that place sells them for almost twice as much.


Very good info in here
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Old 11-13-2003, 08:22 PM   #41
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So now what do you think would be brighter/better for a plant tank (20gal tall)...A 2x55wPC setup from AHS or a 2x24wT5 setup like that one from reefgeek that has the nice reflectors and all?? I know the watts are not close but the T5 is supposed to put out more lumns per watt than the PC right?
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Old 11-13-2003, 08:30 PM   #42
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Well..

Given the choices you gave.. I would say the 2 x 55W kit.

Or secret option number 3.. DIY a 4 x 24W T5 hood ;-)
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Old 11-13-2003, 08:33 PM   #43
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http://www.sunlightsupply.com/aquari...tcomparo.shtml

Look at this test done with the reflectors

I went with a 2xT5 with that because it was close in price...but you could fit 4xT5 in the same space as the 2x55 from AHS.
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Old 11-14-2003, 03:08 AM   #44
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Wasserpest, my tank is 36" long * 24" wide * 24" deep. Inside measurement of the canopy under the mirror polished aluminum relector is 9" front to back and 35.5 side to side. Replacing the canopy is not an option.

The 4 current 20 watt bulbs are placed roughly like this:

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I was thinking that I could relocate everything and thus squeeze in 2 more 20 watt T12 bulbs (adding 40 watts) but this would have the bulbs so tight they'd be touching each other, so that won't work. Maybe just OD them? Or maybe T8s or T5s?

I plan on sticking with low light plants but feel they could benefit from a bit more light.
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Old 11-14-2003, 04:34 AM   #45
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heaven, all things considered I would probably put 2 96W PC kits into this ballast. This would give you plenty of light for healthy plant growth. Or you can get the 2x 96 watt kit from AHS, provided it fits into your hood this would get you a lot of light for under US$200... I don't think you will be happy with either combination of regular fluorescents.

By the way, I really like the way my tank looks with the two 10000K T5's. Brighter and whiter, plants pearling, ambulia tips turning pink, internodes getting shorter. Recommended!
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