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Old 03-22-2013, 03:13 AM   #1
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Betta and velvet


Hi all,

I am 80 percent sure that my betta has velvet, I just don't know what I should do to cure it, it's in a community tank and I don't know whether or not to medicate him or to isolate him and medicate, quite frankly I'm not sure how to go about it at all. Any suggestions are helpful. I will post pics of him up soon.

He just lays on the bottom and doesn't swim at all, just sits in one spot.

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This info taken from bettafish.com - please check them out if you need more info - they really do have a ton of helpful folks.

*Symptoms: Can be found by shining a flashlight on your betta. If it looks like it is covered in fine gold of rust colored dust then it has velvet. Clamped Fins, no appetite, darting/rubbing, loss of color, lethargic
*Treatment: It is very contagious so you should treat the entire tank. Treat as you would treat Ick. Potassium Permanganate is also my favorite for treating Velvet.
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Treatment of velvet also requires a complete tank blackout.
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Hi all,

I am 80 percent sure that my betta has velvet, I just don't know what I should do to cure it, it's in a community tank and I don't know whether or not to medicate him or to isolate him and medicate, quite frankly I'm not sure how to go about it at all. Any suggestions are helpful. I will post pics of him up soon.

He just lays on the bottom and doesn't swim at all, just sits in one spot.

Thanks,

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*Symptoms: Can be found by shining a flashlight on your betta. If it looks like it is covered in fine gold of rust colored dust then it has velvet. Clamped Fins, no appetite, darting/rubbing, loss of color, lethargic
*Treatment: It is very contagious so you should treat the entire tank. Treat as you would treat Ick. Potassium Permanganate is also my favorite for treating Velvet.
How do I get ahold of that treatment?


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Here are some shots i tried to get of him.

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I don't see anything wrong with him in those pics - what symptoms is he showing other than being lethargic?

What is your maintenance schedule and your water parameters, and what are his tankmates?
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I can't see it from the pictures. Is his breathing labored? Copper treatment in a hospital tank will cure it if he has it though.
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*Symptoms: Can be found by shining a flashlight on your betta. If it looks like it is covered in fine gold of rust colored dust then it has velvet. Clamped Fins, no appetite, darting/rubbing, loss of color, lethargic
*Treatment: It is very contagious so you should treat the entire tank. Treat as you would treat Ick. Potassium Permanganate is also my favorite for treating Velvet.
Potassium Permanganate is a tricky treatment and only used as a "bath". Should be used in distilled water as dissolved organics will render it almost ineffective.
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Rid Ich is a very good medication for velvet - but you should do the flashlight test first to make sure you are treating the proper problem. You'll want to crank your heat in the tank up, do a complete blackout, and follow the instructions on the Rid Ich bottle. If it is velvet, you definitely need to treat the entire tank.
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Did the flashlight test and he had it, he has since passed away found him the next morning laying still on the bottom of the tank, now two of my black neon tetra have lost there black stripe and are acting weird. Here is a pic of themAttachment 113010

He is the one on the bottom, I have that one and another one that looks exactly like the one pictured, what is it?


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Old 03-25-2013, 07:29 PM   #12
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treat with increased temps (84F), blackout, CuSO4 (can buy at petsmart/co as coppersafe), and malachite green (as maracide at petco/smart).
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treat with increased temps (84F), blackout, CuSO4 (can buy at petsmart/co as coppersafe), and malachite green (as maracide at petco/smart).
Is that for my black neon tetra?


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Sorry to hear that your betta died! You can use the same treatments already suggested (Rid Ich or the coppersafe/mg treatment) on the other fish.

This is assuming you have no inverts, because the copper meds will obviously kill them. Rid Ich is a combination of formalin and malachite green ... it's very effective and easy to dose.
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Is that for my black neon tetra?


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its for the tank with velvet. if one fish has it, they all do. thats how i treat velvet and it has worked very well for me.
sometimes ill also add salt, sometimes i wont.
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