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Old 03-14-2013, 07:13 AM   #1
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hate this algae..can't find the name


anyone know what is this algae? what cause it? how to treat it?
I can't find any information on it.




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Old 03-14-2013, 07:24 AM   #2
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Staghorn?
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Definitely staghorn. Close relative of BBA.

Treat exactly the same. Increase CO2 (if applicable) and flow. Decrease light. May actually be caused by strong flow as well.

H2O2 or Excel spot treatments, and Excel whole tank overdosing normally kill it. But not mine (see my sig). I developed the "One-Two Punch" treatment especially for it. Try everything else first though.
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I think it's staghorn. I have strong flow on my tank.
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DarkCobra's One-Two Punch took care of my BBA problem better than anything else. Check that one out!!
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DarkCobra's One-Two Punch took care of my BBA problem better than anything else. Check that one out!!

Thanks! I will try the excel first.
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If you spot treat during a water change, and then wait say 5 min, then refill, this will toast most any BBA or Compsopogon(Staghorn).

You likely have a CO2 issue(not enough).
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Definitely staghorn. Close relative of BBA.

Treat exactly the same. Increase CO2 (if applicable) and flow. Decrease light. May actually be caused by strong flow as well.

H2O2 or Excel spot treatments, and Excel whole tank overdosing normally kill it. But not mine (see my sig). I developed the "One-Two Punch" treatment especially for it. Try everything else first though.
Thanks brother! Your "1 2 punch" treatment works. It took out all of the green algae on the leaves, substrate and the glass.
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DarkCobra's One-Two Punch took care of my BBA problem better than anything else. Check that one out!!
What does the one two punch consist of? I have some staghorn issues also.
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Definitely staghorn. Close relative of BBA.

Treat exactly the same. Increase CO2 (if applicable) and flow. Decrease light. May actually be caused by strong flow as well.

H2O2 or Excel spot treatments, and Excel whole tank overdosing normally kill it. But not mine (see my sig). I developed the "One-Two Punch" treatment especially for it. Try everything else first though.
Why would strong flow cause this type of algae? That seem counter intuitive to everything I have read.
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What does the one two punch consist of? I have some staghorn issues also.
Here's the thread link...

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=203684
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Why would strong flow cause this type of algae? That seem counter intuitive to everything I have read.
Yes, I'm curious about this as well...
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its not co2 related IMO, it has something to do with the Ca and Mg, is your Ca level very low? or dosing too much Mg?
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Why would strong flow cause this type of algae? That seem counter intuitive to everything I have read.
For the same reason BBA loves to grow on filter outflows. Especially if that outflow is the source of diffused CO2. Yes, it's 100% counter intuitive. And I can't explain why it happens, nor can anybody else. But it does happen.

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its not co2 related IMO, it has something to do with the Ca and Mg, is your Ca level very low? or dosing too much Mg?
That is the explanation offered by the MCI algae diagnostic guide. Though I don't use MCI, I'd always found it interesting how specific the diagnostic portion is. This nutrient=this algae. I'd never had a problem with staghorn before, and I'd recently changed Ca/Mg levels. So reverting my Ca/Mg dosage what it was previously was the very first thing I tried.

It had no effect, at least in my case. Neither did adjusting ratios/levels according to MCI. Or any other combination of changes. And I have almost total control over those two nutrients since my tapwater has a GH of only one.

From there I went on to try increases and reductions of every nutrient. Three months of tests, not a single improvement in the staghorn. From there I went on to look at light, CO2, and flow, and that's when I started understanding this algae.

Unhealthy leaves=staghorn
Too much light with too little flow and/or CO2=staghorn
Too much flow and/or CO2=staghorn
Too much light, flow, and CO2=LOTS OF STAGHORN

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For the same reason BBA loves to grow on filter outflows. Especially if that outflow is the source of diffused CO2. Yes, it's 100% counter intuitive. And I can't explain why it happens, nor can anybody else. But it does happen.



That is the explanation offered by the PPS algae diagnostic guide. Though I don't use PPS, I'd always found it interesting how specific the diagnostic portion is. This nutrient=this algae. I'd never had a problem with staghorn before, and I'd recently changed Ca/Mg levels. So reverting my Ca/Mg dosage what it was previously was the very first thing I tried.

It had no effect, at least in my case. Neither did adjusting ratios/levels according to PPS. Or any other combination of changes. And I have almost total control over those two nutrients since my tapwater has a GH of only one.

From there I went on to try increases and reductions of every nutrient. Three months of tests, not a single improvement in the staghorn. From there I went on to look at light, CO2, and flow, and that's when I started understanding this algae.

Unhealthy leaves=staghorn
Too much light with too little flow and/or CO2=staghorn
Too much flow and/or CO2=staghorn
Too much light, flow, and CO2=LOTS OF STAGHORN

in those cases we will see staghorn algae in all tanks, if Mg and Ca is not the cause then what causes it? it seems to spread no matter whatever changes i make, i did notice that it seems to spread more when Ca is way less than Mg. am still testing it and i cannot be 100% certain if this relate to Mg and Ca.

i am testing many algae in my tanks to find out what really causes them. i will soon report on my research.

am not sure how much truth there is to this:
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...s-summary.html
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