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Old 02-11-2013, 12:41 AM   #1
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So I might have a problem with lighting.


I have a Catalina 1-bulb 24W sitting right on top of my tank. Now, the strange thing is that there are many signs that my light is strong as well as sings that my light is week.

Strong:
1. BBA blooming. It's really taking over my driftwood and some anubias, and it's even starting to attack some of my java fern. The wierdest thing is that my treatment of Algeafix has barely put a dent in it. My CO2 is also as high as it can go without bothering the fish.
2. Most plants are growing very well.

Weak:
1. New brown hygro and Ludwigia atlantis growth is coming in green (new plant to me).
2. All my blyxa is light green, not very golden like many say it should be.
3. My glosso only grows up, even with repeated trimmings.
4. The HC I planted has had a lot of difficulty.

Can someone please help me crack my mystery of the illogical light? Maybe I can borrow a PAR meter?

EDIT: I just realize I unintentionaly echoed my title of Jake's "I might have a 20 Long problem" tank thread, LOL!
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:53 AM   #2
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What are the tank dimensions? Also a PAR rental is always a good idea -check your local aquarium society.
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It's a 20 Long.
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It's a 20 Long.
From what I hear the catalina system has nice reflectors so it could be just a tad bit too much light. Your plant colors may not be coming out because of ferts - are you dosing iron?
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Algae fix isnt gonna touch the bba...I think you need another bulb... Just raise the fixture up some..also make sure your co2 is consistent and your flow through out the tank is good...
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From what I hear the catalina system has nice reflectors so it could be just a tad bit too much light. Your plant colors may not be coming out because of ferts - are you dosing iron?
Yeah, but the data I think is of higher wattage. Plus the reflectors get dirty quickly from splashing water, so they aren't 100% all the time.

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Algae fix isnt gonna touch the bba...I think you need another bulb... Just raise the fixture up some..also make sure your co2 is consistent and your flow through out the tank is good...
Oh really? Than what will kill BBA? (and nothing else, mind you). And I'm confused, I should decrease the light (raise it) or increase it (x2 the output). And yes and yes to the last two, though last week I had to bring it down some to introduce new fish.
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Having bba doesn't mean you have too much lighting... And spot treatin with excel or h2o2 will kill bba... You have to stay on top of it... And just because you have killed it with the spot treating doesn't mean it is gone...unless you have perfected your co2 it will come back...
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Really? No one else?
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I think by "another bulb" he meant to change the one you have to a different one.
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I think that the light is probably fine for the tank if you see plant growth. It might be just a tad on the low side if your Glosso only grows up, but that makes sense because I would classify that tank as "Medium" light (without having PAR values) and Glosso likes "High" light at the substrate to carpet.

As for the BBA, you need two things to really keep it under control: good water circulation and Flourish Excel dosing. The Flourish Excel has an anti-algae agent that takes care of it over the course of a week or two. Turning up the pump in my Spec and dosing Flourish Excel took care of it for me.
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Its a c02 problem,not a light problem

two thiings tell me this, your glosso growing up, and the bba.

carpet plants dont grow toward the surface because of a lack of light, they grow toward the surface to reach higher levels of c02.

BBA is usually induced by fluctuating levels of c02, and or lack of c02.

spot treat the bba with excel, and manually remove as much as you can. increase surface agitation and increase your c02 slowly over the next week. during this time, treat the tank with normal excel dosing, so that as your increasing your c02, and its flucuating, your not helping the BBa re-establish. Once you have your c02 properly set, taper off the excel dosing if you would like. Or continue dosing excel for preventative measures.
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I think that the light is probably fine for the tank if you see plant growth. It might be just a tad on the low side if your Glosso only grows up, but that makes sense because I would classify that tank as "Medium" light (without having PAR values) and Glosso likes "High" light at the substrate to carpet.

As for the BBA, you need two things to really keep it under control: good water circulation and Flourish Excel dosing. The Flourish Excel has an anti-algae agent that takes care of it over the course of a week or two. Turning up the pump in my Spec and dosing Flourish Excel took care of it for me.
That would be extremely disturbing, as I really want high light. I also can't use excel because I have java fern and fissidens.
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