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Old 02-12-2013, 09:01 PM   #16
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Put some warm water in new tanks when ready to transfer or put a heater in til same temp then as it naturally cools they should adjust?
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Out come in traits, hair color eye color. meausreable traits.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:26 PM   #18
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Great suggestions for the water temp guys! I hesitate taking water from one tank to another since the shrimp will come from two different environments. If I have two new tanks, I may as well have new water as well.

HOWEVER, you guys gave me an idea. If I put a heater in the tank and warm it up to what they are used to, then I can take it out, drip acclimate and transfer them without a problem. The water can then cool to 72F or so without any issues as so many suggested.

Nick, here's a very bad pic of an Aqua and 2 clear Boxers. It was all I could get right now...
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:29 PM   #19
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Out come in traits, hair color eye color. meausreable traits.
I guess I don't get what you're trying to say. It's highly possible the children would have different eye colors or different hair color, based on how the DNA is swapped during meiosis. The same man and same woman can have multiple children that differ in phenotypes. What am I missing?
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:37 PM   #20
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Just took some more

Here's another Aqua
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Here's the transitional phase of Aqua (red to blue)
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:53 PM   #21
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:39 AM   #22
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Yeah, I think I missed the point. That's what I get for quick browsing the forum at my work break.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:16 AM   #23
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I dont know if you explained it better in PM, but thats why I asked what you ment. If a man and a women have 100 Male offspring, none will be the same as another (barring an identical twin).
If you have 2 identical twins fathering 50 male offspring each with the same women, none of those 100 will be the same as any other also. And there isent a difference genetically between the fathers, so wether it was 2 identical twins or one person really dosent come into play.
I feel like that is obvious which means Im still misunderstanding the anology here.
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I like your new mutations, Bryce. Keep it up.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:57 AM   #25
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Wicca, I hope you do get the purple! I was working on a purple cherry for awhile I called Plum, however with the mortality rates, I finally figured maybe the purple from my cherries was either a weak gene or bacterial infection. I culled everything.
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I'm planning on going super low tech on the tanks. Inert substrate, double sponge filter.

I am a little concerned about the temp though. I have all shrimp in 78-80F If I move the shrimp over to the 2.5gs, I'd be better off without a heater, however I don't know if the sudden drop in temp will affect them in a bad way...

Look at the guy on the right side, purple/black is this one what you called plum? This is very interesting... when I took this pic I noticed a Red cherry half red /purple (of course when I tried to take a pic it desapear).

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No, mine were fire red culls, and had a distinct dark plum color with white sprinkled. I think Wicca has some plum colored rilis.
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So will be getting the tanks today.

Why not tenners instead of 2.5's one may ask?

Simple. I have a pair of black cherries in a tenner that has taken forever for them to breed. Maybe one is sterile? Perhaps. However consider when I had cherries in a 55g, it took them forever too. So my opinion is that the larger size that is actually detrimental to breeding with fewer shrimp.

While the larger tenner would be better for stable water params, the smaller size is better for breeding only 2- 3 shrimp.

(After I use the tanks for this experiment, I may actually use them to coax my Nessies to breed faster. )
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:59 PM   #27
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I like your new mutations, Bryce. Keep it up.
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Since we are talking about mutations and such, just a quick question for everyone. I was curious on how one would get a blue rilli or carbon rilli?
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:21 PM   #29
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my blue rili just started showing up in my red rili. i ended up with mostly all blue shrimp from my red rili and only maybe an hand full of the red and clear rili. not sure why or how it happend it just popped up and kinda was dominate i guess sine the reds slowly went away.

sorry for the kinda hijack but its been brought up so i figure what could it hurt to post a couple pics of my purple rili



purple and blue/aqua rili i get several shades out of them


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Old 02-24-2013, 02:52 PM   #30
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OKay, so got (2) 2.5g tanks for the ec x nm... then thought...hey, why not get more for other projects...so got 2 more...and then I splurges a little and bought some black silicone airline hose. Ninja, baby! LOL

Just ordered 20 more xy-2831's for future tanks.

My AL-60 came in today and man is it loud. Not as loud as other power air pumps, but louder than my mini air pumps for sure, so I may be diverted while the 2.5's are cycling.

I took measurements of my al-60 and set out to find something to dampen the sound. My decision is box with box technique, but do it as cheaply as possible. Above the air pump I want 3" clearance for air to enter and heat to dissipate.

My first idea was to buy
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I got it home, tried sticking the pump in there...FAILURE! Apearently when I took measurements, I took them in the wrong spot. The pump is trapezoidal shaped, so goes smaller as you go up. The footprint was too large to go in.

I still think the cooler idea may work, albeit a larger one. Coolers are made to be insulated, so may work with sound, too. HOWEVER, having said that, I had another brainstorm...



Yepper a 5g bucket for $3. Gonna try it first without insulation, then with if needed. My mission...do it CHEAP and do it safely...
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