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Old 02-10-2013, 08:22 PM   #1
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Anybody else keep clams? How do you tell if they are happy and healthy? I've been trying to feed them with Kent's plankton. But I don't know if they are eating. It's not easy to tell if they're eating like it is with the other critters.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:31 PM   #2
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Clams are cool, I've always worried about them dying and polluting the tank so I've not tried them.

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Clams are cool, I've always worried about them dying and polluting the tank so I've not tried them.

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I can tell you from experience that is a myth. We got six clams from William Tricker. Four of them have died. Each of the dead ones was quite easy to find and remove.

I can't figure out what killed the clams. So I'm hoping somebody can pass along some clues as to what to look for.
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I can tell you from experience that is a myth. We got six clams from William Tricker. Four of them have died. Each of the dead ones was quite easy to find and remove.

I can't figure out what killed the clams. So I'm hoping somebody can pass along some clues as to what to look for.
There is not enough food in an aquarium to feed a clam without regular direct feeding so they often die of starvation

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I had some claims years back and it is no myth the will wipe out a tank when they die... I had 3 the first one took to death and killed my 3 angels and all my tetras and Cory's in my 55 gallon only thing that lived was my bristle nosed
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Advice on clams...eat them but don't keep them. I prefer New England style chowder or clams casino.
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Definitely not a myth that they die and pollute tanks, creating monster ammonia spikes. It happens way too frequently.

About the only successful way to keep them is to maintain them in a container inside the aquarium with multiple, targeted feedings. Have to check them on a regular basis each day to make sure they're alive and well.

Just not suited for a home aquarium.
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Definitely a myth. We've had four dead clams in a ten gallon tank without a single death of any other critter.

I'm really not interested in the naysayers telling me why clams are evil and must be avoided. I am not trying to decide whether to keep clams. I have clams already. And I will probably put clams in more tanks in the future. What I am looking for is people who have successfully kept clams who can help me make sure I'm doing it right.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:42 PM   #9
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What were your water parameters like when the clams died? What were your ammonia readings when you tested your water? Did 4 die at the same time? Or have 4 died in total? How many clams have you raised in total?
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Obviously it's NOT a myth if others have had a dead clam wipe out a tank. That seems to be common sense. It also seems that clams are not able to be successfully kept since every story ends with dead clams. Whether it takes out your tank or not is luck of the draw. Moral of the story, skip trying to keep clams unless like already stated, you spot feed them regularly and keep a close eye on them. Even then it sounds like you are playing Russian roulette.
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We're attempting to help you do it right.

It's why people are saying it's super-difficult to keep them alive.

They're filter feeders, which means they need frequent targeted feedings.

I suggested they be kept in a container so they're easy to locate and to feed.
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spot feed them regularly and keep a close eye on them.
The only "successful" way to keep clams

A quick question though, despite clams being a filter feeder you aren't one of the people who buys into sellers claims that they clean your water are you? Because the simple fact of the matter is what little they take out of your water they add back in waste
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Definitely a myth. We've had four dead clams in a ten gallon tank without a single death of any other critter.

I'm really not interested in the naysayers telling me why clams are evil and must be avoided. I am not trying to decide whether to keep clams. I have clams already. And I will probably put clams in more tanks in the future. What I am looking for is people who have successfully kept clams who can help me make sure I'm doing it right.

Someone already said it. They starve. If u know anything about clams they process cpom and fpom. Those are not going to be found in an aquarium where u use a filter. You could use a sponge but then those won't produce enough current.

The perfect conditions for a FW clam is in a stream with current carrying specific sizes nutrients from upstream to downstream (hence Fpom+ cpom). That wont be found in an aquarium so they slowly starve. Ideally if you could mimic their environment, it would be a constant flow of cloudy water with nutrients......but I don't see anyone wanting that.

So what people are saying isnt a myth. In a typical practical aquarium, they die off and bury at times if you have decor or aquascape and the become ammonium bombs.

4/6 survival rate already proves that something is wrong
http://www.fishchannel.com/freshwate...-problems.aspx
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Definitely a myth. We've had four dead clams in a ten gallon tank without a single death of any other critter.

I'm really not interested in the naysayers telling me why clams are evil and must be avoided. I am not trying to decide whether to keep clams. I have clams already. And I will probably put clams in more tanks in the future. What I am looking for is people who have successfully kept clams who can help me make sure I'm doing it right.
Right, because one experience says more than ten others?
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:46 AM   #15
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What were your water parameters like when the clams died? What were your ammonia readings when you tested your water? Did 4 die at the same time? Or have 4 died in total? How many clams have you raised in total?
Four died in total. One very shortly after arrival. I assume it may have been near death from transport since that sort of thing is not uncommon. Our parameters have been stable since the tank finished cycling. Ammonia stays at or very near zero. Same with nitrites. Nitrates were fairly high before we added Nitra-Zorb to the filter.

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4/6 survival rate already proves that something is wrong
Right. That's why I started this thread. I don't know if there's something I can fix or not. Our tank is strange. The ghost shrimp are thriving, but all the cherry shrimp have died. The cories are psychotically happy. But the otos both died in just a few days. I don't know if the clam deaths are a similar phenomenon.

I have been target feeding with Kent's plankton. I never expected the clams to replace a filter. But I also know that our filter does not remove everything. So I did expect the clams would get some food from the water column.

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Right, because one experience says more than ten others?
Sort of. In the world of science a single contradictory bit of evidence does negate even the most long-held of hypotheses. People say clams will invariably destroy all life within thirty feet of your tank when they die. We have had clams die and remain undiscovered for more than a day without any ammonia spikes or loss of fish. So clearly those who have had problems are overlooking other issues at play. If dead clams always destroyed tanks then ours would have been no exception. On top of that, I fail to see why clams would be any different from any other critter that might die. A dead guppy will cause problems if left alone to rot.

Even if clams don't add anything to a tank they are still interesting critters. In that respect they aren't really different from most of the critters we put into tanks. Our cory cats definitely don't clean up more than they add. But that doesn't stop people from keeping them.

There are scores of threads for just about every fish imaginable to help people with the nest ways to keep them healthy and breeding. I can find information on culturing daphnia and other foods. I can find information about all sorts of "difficult" fish and plants here. I was hoping to find at least some information about feeding my clams to keep them happy. Guess I'll keep experimenting.
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