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Old 12-01-2005, 12:46 AM   #1
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Eco-Aqualizer


Does this work? Does anyone have any experience with this machine? I want a UV sterilizer, but I have a power filter so I can't be hooking up something that's made for in-line use only. If there is some UV sterilizer that includes a pump for non in-line use then I would like to know where to find one.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:57 AM   #2
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Yes there is one by Jebo that has a powerhead and the UV, you need to add tubing.

I actually bought one at an auction but never got around to using it. I've read that it is pretty easy to overtighten this type and break the threads so I decided to not use it until I need it. Would you like to buy mine? I paid $65 at the club auction for it. I cannot guarantee it, I never used it, never got around to getting hoses for it. I did throw away the box, however, I couldn't fit it into my fish storage area under the cabinet with the box. It really didn't come with instructions anyhow. I think they retail for $100, I'm thinking this one was 9 watts.

As for the Eco-Aqualizer, personally I never understood how it was supposed to work. But then, I never put magnets in my shoes or wore magnetic bracelets either.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:15 AM   #3
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Eco-Aqualizer = a slippery or viscous liquid or liquefiable substance not miscible with water obtained from a limbless scaly elongate reptile.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:22 AM   #4
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Nathan!

Anybody remember when the folks who manufactured this product threatened to sue one of our more "cantankerous" forum members over such disparaging remarks?

Lets just say no one I know on this forum or in my area seems to use one and leave it at that.

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I'm not sure if your interested in this type of uv sterilizer. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...181#post164181
I have one and it works well. I use mine only when I feel the need.


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Old 12-01-2005, 03:32 AM   #6
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Nathan!

Anybody remember when the folks who manufactured this product threatened to sue one of our more "cantankerous" forum members over such disparaging remarks?

Lets just say no one I know on this forum or in my area seems to use one and leave it at that.

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I didn't think anyone would remember that

I called this product snake oil in an APD post a few years back and the nob that owns that joint claimed that I single handedly caused his business to drop 40%.

Now that's damn good. If I have that kind of power I should be getting paid every time I mention a product in a positive light.

You want my thoughts on the Eco-Aqualizer? Try here.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:27 PM   #7
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There are some "technologies" floating around now that I would call religions, not technology. I've found that these mainly include crystals and magnets.

Some of these systems include the Eco Aqualizer (a series of rare earth magnets mounted inside a PVC tube) - magnets, and the "Plocher Energy Accumulator," known as Penac - crystals.

Both are projected to work the same way... as far as I can figure out, they assert that billions of molecules in any ecosystem form complex patterns and links, and in a closed system, the molecules get all "mushed" together over time, losing their natural patterns and arrangement... and this either directly or indirectly (or both) causes poor tank health. The Eco Aqualizer purports to "break apart" and "renew" the "mushed up" molecules and rearrange them in such a way as to make the tank healthier by running water through a tube with a series of rare earth magnets mounted and embedded in the tube. (Their "demonstration" even suggests that toxic substances get stuck inside "mushed up" molecules making it so they can't be filtered out by mechanical, chemical, or biological filtration!)

Penac is supposed to work the same way, but it's even more bizarre. A man named Roland Plocher from Meersburg, Germany invented a super secret device called the "Plocher Apparatus." No one has seen the inside of this machine or seen any schematics on how it works. Nevertheless, he uses this machine to make powders called Penac. He believes that "holograms" of molecules in a renewed, natural state can be transferred from substances into the Penac powder, then the Penac powder can transfer those holographic patterns back into the water or soil to (just like the Eco Aqualizer) "renew" the mushed-up molecular patterns and "xerox copy" the renewed or refreshed holographic molecular patterns from the Penac to the water/soil. (If you look into Crystal Therapy, you'll find it's grounded in the same beliefs; Penac is basically "Crystal Therapy for soil.")

Some investigation into the Penac powders have revealed them to be either crushed quartz or crushed calcium carbonate.

The problem with these "technologies" is that it is impossible to scientifically test them. They instead rely on the faith in the beliefs of the people who invented (or "discovered") them. Not science, not technology... religion.

Take a look at this if you've never seen it:

http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/index.html

Rare earth magnet product, and the guy is completely serious. To me, it's absolutely no different than the Eco Aqualizer or Penac. It's religion.

Now, keep in mind, I don't think this absolutely completely 100% guarantees that rare earth magnets and so called "holographic powders" might not provide SOME type of benefit to a tank. It's just that if they do, there's absolutely no scientific data available at the present time to demonstrate what the benefits are or how they come about. For example, Penac is sold in the Aquarium Trade by ADA, and they recommend sprinkling a thin layer of it down before laying the substrate on top of it. But some people have long used dolomite (Calcium Magnesium Carbonate) the exact same way... sprinkle a layer down, then put the substrate on top. What's not to say the benefits of Penac vs. Dolomite are not one in the same?
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Took a look at the link you provided. I have a way to test his device. Let him adorn his body with them and then expose him to spray a mist containing the live Ebola virus into his sinuses.

Same for the Eco-Aqualizer. I made this offer to the nob who owns the company. Take a 10 gallon container of water. Let me introduce toxic levels (to a human) of something into the water. Then let the water run though his device for 30 days on a closed loop. Then he can drink the water.

Note that none of these people who push this stuff will accept any type of test that would prove that their device either works or doesn't if it involves their own health. I call that not a religion or faith but a scam.
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I'm being polite... some religions are scams... Scientology, anyone?
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:40 PM   #11
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...some religions are scams...
Only *some*?

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:51 PM   #12
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I'm not afraid to say it: the eco-aqualizer is an absolute joke and anybody who even considers its validity needs to reconsider their common sense and save their hard earned money.

I saw a site where it was disassembled. PVC with the hardware store markings still on the side and regular electrical tape holding two (EDIT: several) magnets against the pipe.

Imagine the profit margin. When an order comes in, this guy cuts off the end of a pipe, wraps some electrical tape around it with the magnets, and glues the label and caps on. If you paid X dollars for it, 1 dollar went into the product, and X-1 dollars went into his pocket.

Nobody should feel bad if you hurt this "business" with truth, because its not a business, its theft of people's money by making false claims about a "product", and tricking them into buying it.

That being said, hopefully somebody here can recommend a unit that actually does something.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:52 PM   #13
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If you can provide a link to the site where one was ripped apart I would really appreciate it!
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:57 PM   #14
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Sure Rex, http://www.inlandreef.com/Testing/EcoPhotos.html
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:01 PM   #15
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Oh Joy! I'm adding that link to my page.
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