Any Quickies?
Planted Tank Forums
Your Tanks Image Hosting *Tank Tracker * Plant Profiles Fish Profiles Planted Tank Guide Photo Gallery Articles

Go Back   The Planted Tank Forum > Specific Aspects of a Planted Tank > Algae


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-01-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
SouthernCichlids
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
SouthernCichlids's Avatar
 
PTrader: (26/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 343
Default

Any Quickies?


Does anyone have any quick tips on getting rid of blue-green algae? It seems to have been introduced to my tank and is spreading over my moss and anubias. I've lowered by light period to 8 hours but is there anything I else I can do??
Thanks in advance!
SouthernCichlids is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-01-2013, 06:50 PM   #2
puopg
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
PTrader: (10/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 751
Default

http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/algae.htm. Probably low nitrate. What are you dosing, water parameters co2, etc...
puopg is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-01-2013, 08:21 PM   #3
Rob in Puyallup
Opae Ula Crazed.
 
Rob in Puyallup's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,391
Default Re: Any Quickies?

I'm having trouble with it in my brackish tank. Seems no one really knows the cause or a surefire way to get rid of it.

I'm thinking mine started because of too much light. Both intensity and day length. Cut back on both and the cyanobacteria changed from brownish green to bluegreen.

It could be low nitrates as they are zero. I'd rather not increase it because the tank is home to shrimp.

I used Maracyn 2 with limited success. It clouded the water to where it looked like skim milk. After a large water change and 3 days of filtration the water is clear again.

The cyanobacteria, even under the filters' outflow, continues to grow.

Good luck!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using Tapatalk 2
Rob in Puyallup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-01-2013, 08:24 PM   #4
chunkychun
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: fl
Posts: 322
Default

I played around with lighting a bit and checking my parameters etc but i eventually just went to petsmart and bought erythromycin and did the dose and it killed all the bga.
__________________
chunkychun is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-01-2013, 10:11 PM   #5
puopg
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
PTrader: (10/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 751
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob in Puyallup View Post
I'm having trouble with it in my brackish tank. Seems no one really knows the cause or a surefire way to get rid of it.

I'm thinking mine started because of too much light. Both intensity and day length. Cut back on both and the cyanobacteria changed from brownish green to bluegreen.

It could be low nitrates as they are zero. I'd rather not increase it because the tank is home to shrimp.

I used Maracyn 2 with limited success. It clouded the water to where it looked like skim milk. After a large water change and 3 days of filtration the water is clear again.

The cyanobacteria, even under the filters' outflow, continues to grow.

Good luck!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using Tapatalk 2
I have had over 100ppm of nitrates and my shrimp never died. I realized I had overdosed EI about 1.5 months after i began.Unless you have some super high grade shrimp that are really sensitive to ANY nitrates, I think you will be fine...
puopg is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 12:32 AM   #6
m00se
Wannabe Guru
 
m00se's Avatar
 
PTrader: (5/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 1,477
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob in Puyallup View Post
Seems no one really knows the cause or a surefire way to get rid of it. I used Maracyn 2 with limited success.
Plenty of people know how to get rid of it. Maracyn 2 is minocycline. Maracyn (no 1 2 or 3) or API Erythromycin are from what I can determine by my extensive 2 minute research data, are the same thing in different packages. This is what you need to eradicate BGA. IF it's actually BGA.

On another forum there was an extensive thread about BGA and the relationship between NO3 and PO4. In the thread there was an article which I share here:

http://buddendo.home.xs4all.nl/aquar...dfield_eng.htm

It's an interesting read!
m00se is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 01:05 AM   #7
Rob in Puyallup
Opae Ula Crazed.
 
Rob in Puyallup's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,391
Default Re: Any Quickies?

Looked real quick at the graph, m00se. May partly explain the reason for my cyanobacteria. Zero nitrates and unmeasurable phosphates.

Still Maracyn 2 didn't touch it.

Now back to the article that the graph came with. :-)

Thanks, m00se!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using Tapatalk 2
Rob in Puyallup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 01:23 AM   #8
Rob in Puyallup
Opae Ula Crazed.
 
Rob in Puyallup's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,391
Default Re: Any Quickies?

So... No Maracyn 2 or erythromycin. All it takes is a bit of nitrogen and phosphates. But not too much or you'll have to deal with green algae.

Now to find sommathat!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using Tapatalk 2
Rob in Puyallup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 01:29 AM   #9
m00se
Wannabe Guru
 
m00se's Avatar
 
PTrader: (5/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 1,477
Default

thatsthepoint.jpg

The Maracyn 2 wouldn't work because it primarily acts against gram negative bacteria. Plain ole Maracyn is effective against gram positive bacteria, which is what BGA is.

HTH
m00se is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 01:30 AM   #10
m00se
Wannabe Guru
 
m00se's Avatar
 
PTrader: (5/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 1,477
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob in Puyallup View Post
So... No Maracyn 2 or erythromycin. All it takes is a bit of nitrogen and phosphates. But not too much or you'll have to deal with green algae.
The take-away is that there's a ratio between the NO3 and PO4, not just that it exists, but in what quantities relative to each other..
m00se is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 01:47 AM   #11
Rob in Puyallup
Opae Ula Crazed.
 
Rob in Puyallup's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,391
Default Re: Any Quickies?

Okay... Sounds complicated enough, not having a scale that measures those tiny quantities.

I'd be using these in a 10 gallon tank. Brackish too. Wonder if that makes a difference?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using Tapatalk 2
Rob in Puyallup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 02:41 AM   #12
Rob in Puyallup
Opae Ula Crazed.
 
Rob in Puyallup's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,391
Default

Thinking I may have to give up, pray to all that'll hear and bomb the tank with erythromycin.

(Very carefully, of course!)
Rob in Puyallup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2013, 03:31 AM   #13
SouthernCichlids
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
SouthernCichlids's Avatar
 
PTrader: (26/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 343
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puopg View Post
http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/algae.htm. Probably low nitrate. What are you dosing, water parameters co2, etc...
I'm dosing Pfertz (N) and Micros. Params are in line but it does seem like I may have low nitrates, just tested and they're at 5+/-. CO2 is DIY sugar and yeast, about 1 bubble per second I believe.

I'll up the dose of (N) a little, cut down the lights to 7 hours and see what happens!
SouthernCichlids is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2013, 03:41 AM   #14
Rob in Puyallup
Opae Ula Crazed.
 
Rob in Puyallup's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 1,391
Default Re: Any Quickies?

Here's what some of my bluegreen algae looks like :
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	uploadfromtaptalk1359866503230.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	38.7 KB
ID:	79322  

Rob in Puyallup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2013, 04:10 AM   #15
danakin
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
danakin's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Midland, MI
Posts: 504
Default

Sigh... Pick up some erythromycin, dose accordingly with your filter off. BGA is a bacteria, and an antibiotic is typically the best treatment. You'll eventually need to figure out your nitrate levels, but using the RIGHT antibiotic will kill the bacteria.
__________________
danakin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Planted Tank LLC 2012