crystal red S grade breeding

shift · 01-29-2013, 06:06 AM

What type of paramaters do S grade CRS need to breed?

Higher grades need lower PH, lower grades don't seem to be as picky.. and S i'm guessing is some where in the middle.

Anyone that have S grade that are breeding.. what are your water parameters?

pirayaman · 01-29-2013, 12:14 PM

i would just shoot for what the higher grades breed in.
they say ph 6-6.4 or so kh 0-2 gh ive red some people like to keep around 2-4 and tds as low as u can get it

**MABJ** · 01-29-2013, 01:45 PM

According to shrimp breeders here, S-SSS all carry the same genes and for the most part all should be kept in the same water.

**acitydweller** · 01-29-2013, 02:09 PM

aim for their ideal parameters.

http://www.shrimpkeeping.com/ and maintain stability. Provide enough surface area for beneficial bacteria to grow and you'll create a healthy environment for these guys to feel comfortable in. Aim for this as the ability to breed is only a result of this.

Alpha Pro Breeders · 01-29-2013, 02:14 PM

I breed all my crystal shrimp the same way
Ph aprox. 6.8
Tds aprox 140-160

GeToChKn · 01-29-2013, 02:33 PM

The days of higher grades being harder are sort of over, if you can breed a decent stock A grade, you can breed a decent stock SSS+. The key is decent stock coming from someone who add's new genes to their breeding, culls defects, etc.

Even the past 2 years, taiwan bee's have gotten a lot easier to breed.

shift · 01-29-2013, 05:02 PM

So far I just have neos, but want to try CRS. I personally prefer the look of the S/A grade over the higher grades.

Do you guys use tap water and driftwood to lower the PH or option in for RO water with CRS?

GeToChKn · 01-29-2013, 05:31 PM

Where abouts in Canada are you? West coast gets near RO water from the taps because of the mountains. GTA area has high ph/gh/kh water and not idea for crystals.

Driftwood and hard water won't do much at all.

shift · 01-29-2013, 05:57 PM

I'm in Kelowna BC.

The PH in my other tanks seems to be around 7-7.5

Previous test from the main tank.. *(i am assuring the other starter tanks will be similiar)

Date PH Ammonia Nitrite Nitrate Alkalinity Hardness Chlorine
12/20/2012 7.2 0 0 0 80-120 150 0
1/8/2013 7.8 0 0 0.5 180 150 0

01-29-2013, 06:06 AM	#1
shift Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: canada Posts: 882	crystal red S grade breeding What type of paramaters do S grade CRS need to breed? Higher grades need lower PH, lower grades don't seem to be as picky.. and S i'm guessing is some where in the middle. Anyone that have S grade that are breeding.. what are your water parameters? __________________ 84G - The Osaka Forest 12G Fluval Edge - Celestial pearl Danios, Boraras urophthalmoides & PFR shrimp 5.5G Fluval Chi - Pumpkin shrimplets 10G - CRS/CBS 10G - Red Rilli's 10G - Yellow shrimp

01-29-2013, 01:45 PM	#3
MABJ Invert Warrior (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11/100%) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY Posts: 3,075	crystal red S grade breeding According to shrimp breeders here, S-SSS all carry the same genes and for the most part all should be kept in the same water. __________________ Check out my tanks: \|18" Long moss and shrimp tank \|10" Tall CRS tank \| 8" Tall crayfish tank \| .5 Gallon cube \| New to shrimp? Need help? Check out these threads: \|Essential tools to buy\|List of inverts\|Sage advice\| Mark A Belcher Junior, A proud member: DBP Club

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acitydweller ओं मणिपद्मे हूं (View User Tanks) PTrader: (121/100%) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,023	aim for their ideal parameters. http://www.shrimpkeeping.com/ and maintain stability. Provide enough surface area for beneficial bacteria to grow and you'll create a healthy environment for these guys to feel comfortable in. Aim for this as the ability to breed is only a result of this. __________________ Namaste ओं मणिपद्मे हूं My life extends far beyond the limitations of me Keeper of the LIST

01-29-2013, 02:14 PM	#5
Alpha Pro Breeders Sponsor (View User Tanks) PTrader: (15/100%) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kent, Ohio Posts: 542	I breed all my crystal shrimp the same way Ph aprox. 6.8 Tds aprox 140-160 __________________ www.alphaprobreeders.com www.planetinverts.com BorneoWild, Shirakura, Mosura, Repashy, Benibachi http://www.alphaprobreeders.com/aqua...imp-fish-food/ Aquatic & Terrarium Supplies, Shrimp & Frogs

01-29-2013, 02:33 PM	#6
GeToChKn Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,112	The days of higher grades being harder are sort of over, if you can breed a decent stock A grade, you can breed a decent stock SSS+. The key is decent stock coming from someone who add's new genes to their breeding, culls defects, etc. Even the past 2 years, taiwan bee's have gotten a lot easier to breed. __________________ 20g platy, , 2 x 10g shrimp, 3 x 20g shrimp, 7.5g shrimp and 1 great dane/mastiff puppy. Sump Pimp #2 My Tanks and my shrimps

01-29-2013, 12:14 PM	#2
pirayaman Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ARDMORE PA Posts: 215	i would just shoot for what the higher grades breed in. they say ph 6-6.4 or so kh 0-2 gh ive red some people like to keep around 2-4 and tds as low as u can get it

01-29-2013, 05:02 PM	#7
shift Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: canada Posts: 882	So far I just have neos, but want to try CRS. I personally prefer the look of the S/A grade over the higher grades. Do you guys use tap water and driftwood to lower the PH or option in for RO water with CRS? __________________ 84G - The Osaka Forest 12G Fluval Edge - Celestial pearl Danios, Boraras urophthalmoides & PFR shrimp 5.5G Fluval Chi - Pumpkin shrimplets 10G - CRS/CBS 10G - Red Rilli's 10G - Yellow shrimp

01-29-2013, 05:31 PM	#8
GeToChKn Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,112	Where abouts in Canada are you? West coast gets near RO water from the taps because of the mountains. GTA area has high ph/gh/kh water and not idea for crystals. Driftwood and hard water won't do much at all. __________________ 20g platy, , 2 x 10g shrimp, 3 x 20g shrimp, 7.5g shrimp and 1 great dane/mastiff puppy. Sump Pimp #2 My Tanks and my shrimps

01-29-2013, 05:57 PM	#9
shift Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: canada Posts: 882	I'm in Kelowna BC. The PH in my other tanks seems to be around 7-7.5 Previous test from the main tank.. (i am assuring the other starter tanks will be similiar) Date PH Ammonia Nitrite Nitrate Alkalinity Hardness Chlorine 12/20/2012 7.2 0 0 0 80-120 150 0 1/8/2013 7.8 0 0 0.5 180 150 0 __________________ 84G - The Osaka Forest 12G Fluval Edge - Celestial pearl Danios, Boraras urophthalmoides & PFR shrimp 5.5G Fluval Chi - Pumpkin shrimplets 10G - CRS/CBS 10G - Red Rilli's 10G - Yellow shrimp Last edited by shift; 01-29-2013 at 06:00 PM.. Reason: edits*

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