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Old 01-27-2013, 02:00 AM   #61
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Right - just get non sudsing ammonia with no fragrence added. The dollar store usually has regular ammonia and lemon scented, so you would want the regular. Just add some to the new tank each day to build up the bacteria that you'll already have started on the filter that you seeded. When you get the frogs you'll do a large water change, add fresh water treated with dechlor or Prime, then add the frogs.

Bettas aren't particularly messy fish either, which is why I assumed one frog would be about the same as one betta. I've never kept frogs tho. Perhaps someone else who's kept both will chime in with some info on that.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:29 PM   #62
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huge ammonia and nitrite spike why is my ammonia not going down?
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:25 PM   #63
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ADD or not please read this whole page. You have 5 pages of opinions, which I'm sure has confused the crap out of you. It's the best info out there for tank cycling, and you benefit more from the page then 20 peoples opinions, and remove the shrimp if you haven't already.

http://www.americanaquariumproducts....gen_Cycle.html
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:21 PM   #64
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ok STILL ... I read them and Ammonia should spike then go down as the nitrites go up ... My Ammonia AND Nitrites are going up

And i don't know how much you read but I don't even have shrimp I said I would get them after the tank is cycled
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:52 PM   #65
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Are you still adding ammonia? Cycles do all sorts of crazy thing - the way the levels rise and drop is not exactly the same in any cycle. You just have to keep with it until it's done.
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This is the fish in tank so I don't have to add ammonia ... this cycling is crazy lol and I have another to cycle when we move * sigh*

I keep testing and changing water as needed ... I cant wait until my ammonia and nitrites are zero lol
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:37 AM   #67
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Ahh oh yeah I forgot about Mr. Finn! Well just keep on doing water changes to keep him as healthy as possible, and the cycle will eventually sort itself out. Remember, you are a fish keeper not a bacteria keeper
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lol yeah its going slower because I have to keep the nitrites and ammonia at live-able levels for him

Btw his name is just Finn lol I have a bad habit of calling them Miss or Mr
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ok STILL ... I read them and Ammonia should spike then go down as the nitrites go up ... My Ammonia AND Nitrites are going up

And i don't know how much you read but I don't even have shrimp I said I would get them after the tank is cycled
Honestly I quit reading midway through page2 lol. I thought you were cycling with shrimp.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:58 PM   #70
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Fish-in will take a good, long time before you see fully even numbers. Fishless cycling with large doses of ammonia to feed bacteria work more quickly.

Be prepared to keep up on your water changes for 1-2 months while your fish-in cycle completes. Since you have to keep performing water changes, your levels will be all wonky and your bacteria will grow more slowly.

It takes time, but it will eventually happen. Even a fishless cycle can take forever sometimes. I've had one going for 7 weeks now and it's just to the point that I'll be adding fish this week.
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