Would this be too many fish for 46g?

[unicknn]

Im in the planning stages of my tank, still building some things and I want to plan out my fish now.

I want:

Longfin Zebra Danio - 10
Angelfish - 2
Neon Tetra - 10
Cardinal Tetra - 10
Flame Dwarf Gourmai - 2
Blue Dwarf Gourmai - 2
Green Cobra Guppy - 3
Red Cobra Guppy - 3
Blue Cobra Guppy - 3
Scarlet Gem Badis - 5
Sanke Sword Tail - 4
Velvet Veiltail Sword - 4

So thats 58 fish and I still want to add some algae eaters. I have a Fluval 306 thats going to be running the thing and of course plants to help with the filtration.

Im just used to having cichlids and you get 1 or 2 per tank, these bait fish are something new to me haha.

Thanks
Nick

[longgonedaddy]

I run a pretty heavy bio load, plants and frequent water changes take care of that. What I run into is just running out of physical space for everyone to be happy. I'm around that number, with maybe a little heavier bio load in a 65 with a fluval 405 and a medium planting level. I think my tank is physically a bit crowded, you will probably find the sme.

[Dx3Bash]

If nothing else it will sure be active and colorful...

[Ashnic05]

IMO it would be overstocked but the more filtration you provide, if you keep up on your regular maintenance (no less than once a week water changes) and had decent amount of surface area and agitation for gas exchange you should be able to skimp by. Just be sure not to overfeed and you should do good.

[leo1234]

I think that is way to much fish. It will look to crowded. From the list you gave i would put the angels, either neons, or cardinals but just one kind of 20, it just looks better in my opinion. And a group of oto's, 6 of them. And probaly some cories for a clean up crew.

[musician71604]

I have a similar set up and that seems overstocked to me, or I guess overcrowded would be more appropriate. Just keep an eye on your parameters and possibly have a backup plan in case things get out of control.

[musician71604]

Also, having multiple gouramis in a tank is not highly advisable unless they're honeys or sparkling, or licorice. Dwarfs don't usually get a long well. You throw two angels into the mix and I think you are asking for trouble.

[Kitsune_Gem]

Originally Posted by musician71604

also, having multiple gouramis in a tank is not highly advisable unless they're honeys or sparkling, or licorice. Dwarfs don't usually get a long well. You throw two angels into the mix and i think you are asking for trouble.

1+.

[unicknn]

Yea I thought it was going to be a little too many fish. Ill cut it down some. I may cut out the angels out too, but Im gonna keep the gouramis, I really like those.

SO if I cut it down to something like this:

Longfin Zebra Danio - 10
Cardinal Tetra - 10
Flame Dwarf Gourmai - 2
Blue Dwarf Gourmai - 2
Scarlet Gem Badis - 5
Sanke Sword Tail - 4
Velvet Veiltail Sword - 4

Thats 37

then throw in a few oto's and corry's maybe 5 of each

Yall think that would be a better set up?

[Dx3Bash]

For what its worth, I have a 55 gallon with a Fluval 306 AND and Filstar XP-S canister. It is heavily planted and I feel there are too many fish with 14 neons, 8 Rummy Nose, 5 Lemon tetras, 6 ottos and 3 corys. Been holding off on 6-8 Trigonostigma espei (Lambchop Rasboras http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYNAxSJ49kg ), because of current stocking levels. You may want to consider bumping up the filtration slightly if you plan to keep that many fish in your 46G. A small AquaClear would supplement your Fluval just fine. It will help on the bioload you intend to keep. Just introduce the fish slowly over time and allow your biological filtration to grow and keep up with the bioload demand. In otherwords, don't add all the fish at once.

[unicknn]

yea thats a good idea, I may just hold off on the danios and tetras for a while.

[musician71604]

Like I mentioned before, the gouramis don't do well together. Very similar to betta behavior. You could do one dwarf, but not four.

[unicknn]

would I be able to get away with 2 in a tank this size? I really like these guys, they are my favorite fish in the group.

[musician71604]

You could try. Usually a male/female works well. If you do try for two males, make sure you have plenty of cover so they can hide. I've heard many stories of one male bullying another.

[Studman0143]

Originally Posted by musician71604

Also, having multiple gouramis in a tank is not highly advisable unless they're honeys or sparkling, or licorice. Dwarfs don't usually get a long well. You throw two angels into the mix and I think you are asking for trouble.

I'm going to second this opinion. You want much less Gourami's. They are by far my favorite fish, but most likely won't do real well with less space and competition as they can be territorial (not always). This is a safety precaution suggestion.