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Old 02-13-2013, 03:10 AM   #1
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How long does Amazonia buffer the pH?


I'm thinking about buying used amazonia that is already cycled, but I don't know how long it will last with tap water. It has been used by the person for 6 months with RO, and I don't know how long it will last with my tap. Do you guys recommend buying used? How long did your amazonia last with RO and tap? I'll be keeping CRS in this tank, so the pH just needs to be 6.6-6.8
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:13 AM   #2
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There are far too many parameter variables to be able to adequately provide an answer. Depends upon temperature, KH, GH, frequency of water changes, flow, plant mass, et al.

If you can get it new? Get it new. Otherwise, you have no real way to know whether or not you're getting a product that will last more than a few weeks.
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:49 AM   #3
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I likely can't get it new without breaking the promise of getting my sister some pastels LOL. I just bought a PS3 so yea... BROKE! LOL
I don't have all that information, but I think I can cover all of them except for plant mass, flow, and the last one. No idea what that is.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:56 AM   #4
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I likely can't get it new without breaking the promise of getting my sister some pastels LOL. I just bought a PS3 so yea... BROKE! LOL
I don't have all that information, but I think I can cover all of them except for plant mass, flow, and the last one. No idea what that is.
Imo never buy it used, you won't know details about what it's gone through or really how long it was really used. Tbh Double Red Line Akadama is the best in terms of life span *after you deal with the GH sucking* but its unavailible in the US at the moment and not for awhile.
Usually the life expectancy is 1 year. to extend it use bactr on the bottom

Also...

layer it with powder so its like this...


--------powder------
====amazonia===
--------powder-------
sprinkle some bactr


apparently this extends the lifespan.

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Old 02-13-2013, 01:33 PM   #5
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Never buy used, never know what was kept in it how long it was actually used..... To many things could go wrong. I would hold off save up some money and do it right.
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There are some things you just shouldnt buy used... Like underwear, toothbrushes (and picks), shoes, and Amazonia.

Inert substrates can be washed and be refreshed so that's a bit better. Anything that breaks down already has a short shelf life to begin with. If you are desperate to do something, spend the effort in looking for alternatives. Plenty out there!
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Not to mention meds, hydra, bacterias......
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It's not just the soil though, he's selling me the complete setup...
so tempting. Well I'll think about it. :/
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would you buy used underwear? I would not, dont buy used soil! I cant say much I just sold a 5 gal bucket of Amazonia Africana mixed, but it was nto used. it was put in a tank it buffered to low 2 weeks in. I pulled it out and threw it in a 5 gal bucket
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No I wouldn't buy used underwear. LOL
If I add bacter, does it really extend the the life of the buffering by 3-6 months or so? Is it worth it? And what's the powder under Amazonia and above it?
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Nothing will extend the life of it there is no magical powder
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Nothing will extend the life of it there is no magical powder
Azn said it would though. ~confused~
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Asked how long the substrate was used for. Are you a SCAPE member? In our community used stuff is not that bad because we kinda know each other. Plus you can identify the sellers reputation by their feedbacks in the foum.


Edit: oops sorry didn't read your post throughly.

6 months with RO is not that bad. You can get another year (maybe a good 10 months) with RO water. But since you will use tap water... And SoCal tap water is out whack, 6 months is probably what will you get with tap.

That being said after those mentioned estimates the substrate will not be useless at all. You can add peat to the filter or better yet put a layer of peat under the substrate before you start the tank. Adding Indian almond leaves, drift woods, and cholla wood into the tank will also help lower down the ph level.

Another way to lower ph level is injecting co2 into the water. But since it will be a shrimp tank this method is kinda risky.

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I hate to be a realest here, but if he is using tap, you would maybe be lucky to get 6 months out of .

These are all viable options for sure: "That being said after those mentioned estimates the substrate will not be useless at all. You can add peat to the filter or better yet put a layer of peat under the substrate before you start the tank. Adding Indian almond leaves, drift woods, and cholla wood into the tank will also help lower down the ph level."

But peat does not last that long if you put it under the substrate, IAL dont really do all that much, and same as driftwood/Cholla wood. Those are way over rated for the PH lowering abillity.

RO is the way to go to help lower PH and keep the substrate buffering longer.

The soil layering AZN reccomended will not make the buffering last longer or the Bacter powder. It all depends on the source water you put in the tank and how much you disturb the substarte. there is no magic powder that does it.
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What pH is new Amazonia designed to buffer to? (using RO water)
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