29 Gallon Equipment

mattrmiller · 08-17-2003, 04:59 PM

I have been researching the XP1, XP2, and XP3. I have read a lot about them, and that how an XP2 would be overkill for a 29 gallon because it would have too much water movement. If I were to go with a canister filter I would go with one of these models because of the great things I have heard from them. My only questions are:

1) Which model would be ideal for a 29 gallon, without making it a wave-pool?

2) Does it come with any media? If not what would you suggest I use?

3) Is there anything else i need to order for this filter that does not come with it?

4) Does anyone have pictures of the intake and output tube? I have yet to see pictures of those.

Thank you as always.

Rex Grigg · 08-17-2003, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex Grigg

I run a XP-2 on a 29 gallon tank and it's perfect. In fact I have my DIY CO2 reactor plumbed into the output of the filter and it works like a champ.

You must have missed this post. I use a XP-2 on a 29 gallon tank. It works fine.

The XP series come with fine and coarse sponges, a polishing pad, either activated carbon or Bio-Chem packet, and the new ones come with some ceramic media. That being said you will still have room in an XP-2 for something else. I suggest the Bio-Chem Stars.'

I would stay away from the XP-1 as it only has one media basket.

culu · 08-17-2003, 08:50 PM

The latest 4th generation Fluval canisters models are very good filters. I’ve used a 204 on my 29gal non-planted for over a year with no problems whatsoever and intend to keep using it when I switch this tank to a planted version. This filter is rated at 180gph and is extremely quiet, very easy to clean, has 3 media baskets, actually four if you count the very top tray.

Planted tanks do not need excessive water movement

180gph for a 29gal is not underkill.. For a 29gal planted tank... IMO it's just about right. Unnecessary agitation (tidal waves, vortex whirlpools) will cause loss of C02.

My 2cents worth

Momotaro · 08-17-2003, 09:10 PM

I love my Eheims. They are silent and easy to maintain. I didn't mind paying a bit more because they are quality machines with many "customizable" accessories.

Mike

mattrmiller · 08-17-2003, 09:30 PM

I have heard a lot about accessories for the XP2. Is there a built in heater? I currently use a heater that I would trust my life with. If there is a internal heater for the XP2, does anyone have any experience with them?

Rex Grigg · 08-17-2003, 09:45 PM

There is no heater in the XP series. The only filters I know that have heaters are some models of Eheim.

Guttboy · 08-17-2003, 09:59 PM

As far as I know only the Eheim has a heater...the Rena Filstars do not.

Mike

culu · 08-17-2003, 11:14 PM

One more thing; Fluval 204 Canister Kits with media included are $63.99 at:

www.petsolutions.com

Momotaro · 08-18-2003, 01:01 AM

I am running an Eheim 2126 thermofilter. I love it!
PM if you have any questions about it.

Mike

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Guttboy Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 752	As far as I know only the Eheim has a heater...the Rena Filstars do not. Mike __________________ Mike 100 Gal Planted, two Filstar XP3, Milwaukee SMS 122 pH controller, Milwaukee reg/bubble, compressed CO2, reactor 1000, 7 WCMM, 12 Ottos, 14 neons, 1 SAE, 3 German blue rams, 2 Florida Flag Fish 10 Gallon...20 Endler's live bearers planted, peat/kitty litter/sand substrate 15 Gallon...Just Schultz Aquatic Plant soil

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mattrmiller Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 152	I have been researching the XP1, XP2, and XP3. I have read a lot about them, and that how an XP2 would be overkill for a 29 gallon because it would have too much water movement. If I were to go with a canister filter I would go with one of these models because of the great things I have heard from them. My only questions are: 1) Which model would be ideal for a 29 gallon, without making it a wave-pool? 2) Does it come with any media? If not what would you suggest I use? 3) Is there anything else i need to order for this filter that does not come with it? 4) Does anyone have pictures of the intake and output tube? I have yet to see pictures of those. Thank you as always.

08-17-2003, 08:50 PM	#18
culu Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 21	The latest 4th generation Fluval canisters models are very good filters. I’ve used a 204 on my 29gal non-planted for over a year with no problems whatsoever and intend to keep using it when I switch this tank to a planted version. This filter is rated at 180gph and is extremely quiet, very easy to clean, has 3 media baskets, actually four if you count the very top tray. Planted tanks do not need excessive water movement 180gph for a 29gal is not underkill.. For a 29gal planted tank... IMO it's just about right. Unnecessary agitation (tidal waves, vortex whirlpools) will cause loss of C02. My 2cents worth

08-17-2003, 09:30 PM	#20
mattrmiller Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 152	I have heard a lot about accessories for the XP2. Is there a built in heater? I currently use a heater that I would trust my life with. If there is a internal heater for the XP2, does anyone have any experience with them?

08-17-2003, 09:45 PM	#21
Rex Grigg Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (65/100%) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland Orygun Posts: 9,600	There is no heater in the XP series. The only filters I know that have heaters are some models of Eheim.

08-17-2003, 11:14 PM	#23
culu Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 21	One more thing; Fluval 204 Canister Kits with media included are $63.99 at: www.petsolutions.com