Jungle Val melting

**Fdsh5** · 01-13-2013, 02:33 PM

I had a bba outbreak in my tank. I may (did) have treated it a little too aggressively. My Val are melting. This has never happened to me before. Should I leave them be, cut them all down to regrow, or yank them out and start over.
Thanks for any advice.

Aquaticz · 01-13-2013, 02:47 PM

Val's and I am guessing excel do not do well together. Your plants are melting. Unless you're a
Lt over did it they will come back, just be patient and do water changes.

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**Fdsh5** · 01-13-2013, 02:53 PM

I used excel every day for months. I over did the hydrogen peroxide treatment. I've done daily 50% water changes. I hope they come back. Should I trim them all down or let them go and hope for the best?

ADJAquariums · 01-13-2013, 03:08 PM

I hear that when adding new ones you cut the tips of the leaves and that somehow stops the melting, but i've never done/seen this so i don't know if it works.

angelsword · 01-13-2013, 03:19 PM

I've killed plants with too much peroxide to treat algae. If the whole plant isn't completely brown and dead they will sometimes regrow. Just so you know, vals can't handle excel. It melts them.

**Fdsh5** · 01-13-2013, 04:24 PM

I've used half the dose of excel in the tank for a year with no problems. I went way to heavy with h2o2. I didn't know my wife had treated it a couple times too. Oops

GeToChKn · 01-13-2013, 04:37 PM

Shhhhhh. Don't tell my Val's that Excel will melt their faces off, they have doing fine for a year with Excel dose 3x a week. So much, I am taking out all the other plants and making it a Val only tank.

**Fdsh5** · 01-13-2013, 05:39 PM

Nothing like some face melting guitar playing. Lol. I don't know why but all I can see is Jack Black in School of Rock ripping on the guitar.

jbig · 01-14-2013, 07:32 PM

I've also been lucky with excel and vals. 1.5-2.0mL daily on a 20L. Vals growing like crazy.

Aquaticz · 01-14-2013, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeToChKn

Shhhhhh. Don't tell my Val's that Excel will melt their faces off, they have doing fine for a year with Excel dose 3x a week. So much, I am taking out all the other plants and making it a Val only tank.

How many ml per gallon are you using? Could you also tell us the size of your tank in gallons, please.
Thx

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farrenator · 01-14-2013, 09:30 PM

I did the same thing last week. I pulled the vals, stripped them of the melting leaves/cut off dead tips and replanted. So far so good, the melting has stopped, but it has only been a week.

GeToChKn · 01-14-2013, 10:13 PM

20gal tank, 1ml of excel 3x a week. 3x13W 6700CFL 5" over the tank.

**Fdsh5** · 01-15-2013, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farrenator

I did the same thing last week. I pulled the vals, stripped them of the melting leaves/cut off dead tips and replanted. So far so good, the melting has stopped, but it has only been a week.

Did that yesterday. Wow, the tank looks bare. Hopefully it will grow back quick.

farrenator · 01-15-2013, 01:46 PM

These plants tend to grow like weeds so I have high hopes for a full recovery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fdsh5

Did that yesterday. Wow, the tank looks bare. Hopefully it will grow back quick.

Blackheart · 01-16-2013, 05:16 PM

Well, I just got a whole bunch a Jungle Vals for my background plant, and half of them melted

so far. but it's weird like not the whole plant? like the top halves of the plant melt off.

haven't seen any new growth yet.

01-13-2013, 02:33 PM	#1
Fdsh5 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28/100%) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,049	Jungle Val melting I had a bba outbreak in my tank. I may (did) have treated it a little too aggressively. My Val are melting. This has never happened to me before. Should I leave them be, cut them all down to regrow, or yank them out and start over. Thanks for any advice.

01-13-2013, 02:47 PM	#2
Aquaticz Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 421	Val's and I am guessing excel do not do well together. Your plants are melting. Unless you're a Lt over did it they will come back, just be patient and do water changes. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD __________________ Regards, Aquaticz

01-13-2013, 03:08 PM	#4
ADJAquariums Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 969	I hear that when adding new ones you cut the tips of the leaves and that somehow stops the melting, but i've never done/seen this so i don't know if it works. __________________ 40 gal http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2194146#post2194146 Breeding fish and Genetics thread http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=214906

01-13-2013, 03:19 PM	#5
angelsword Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 421	I've killed plants with too much peroxide to treat algae. If the whole plant isn't completely brown and dead they will sometimes regrow. Just so you know, vals can't handle excel. It melts them. __________________ Malaysian Trumpet Snails: JUST SAY NO!

01-13-2013, 04:37 PM	#7
GeToChKn Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,113	Shhhhhh. Don't tell my Val's that Excel will melt their faces off, they have doing fine for a year with Excel dose 3x a week. So much, I am taking out all the other plants and making it a Val only tank. __________________ 20g platy, , 2 x 10g shrimp, 3 x 20g shrimp, 7.5g shrimp and 1 great dane/mastiff puppy. Sump Pimp #2 My Tanks and my shrimps

01-13-2013, 02:53 PM	#3
Fdsh5 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28/100%) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,049	I used excel every day for months. I over did the hydrogen peroxide treatment. I've done daily 50% water changes. I hope they come back. Should I trim them all down or let them go and hope for the best?

01-13-2013, 04:24 PM	#6
Fdsh5 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28/100%) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,049	I've used half the dose of excel in the tank for a year with no problems. I went way to heavy with h2o2. I didn't know my wife had treated it a couple times too. Oops

01-13-2013, 05:39 PM	#8
Fdsh5 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28/100%) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,049	Nothing like some face melting guitar playing. Lol. I don't know why but all I can see is Jack Black in School of Rock ripping on the guitar.

01-14-2013, 07:32 PM	#9
jbig Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Columbia, NJ Posts: 76	I've also been lucky with excel and vals. 1.5-2.0mL daily on a 20L. Vals growing like crazy.

01-14-2013, 09:30 PM	#11
farrenator Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: May 2011 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 243	I did the same thing last week. I pulled the vals, stripped them of the melting leaves/cut off dead tips and replanted. So far so good, the melting has stopped, but it has only been a week.

01-14-2013, 10:13 PM	#12
GeToChKn Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,113	20gal tank, 1ml of excel 3x a week. 3x13W 6700CFL 5" over the tank. __________________ 20g platy, , 2 x 10g shrimp, 3 x 20g shrimp, 7.5g shrimp and 1 great dane/mastiff puppy. Sump Pimp #2 My Tanks and my shrimps

01-16-2013, 05:16 PM	#15
Blackheart Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan Posts: 643	Well, I just got a whole bunch a Jungle Vals for my background plant, and half of them melted so far. but it's weird like not the whole plant? like the top halves of the plant melt off. haven't seen any new growth yet.

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