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Old 01-15-2013, 11:24 PM   #1
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75g planted discus.. is this adequate


standard 75g.

have double t5NO 48" with plant spectrum bulbs.
28watt x2


is this adequate for low tech setup? growing vals, dwarf hair grass, dwarf sag, crypt red, amazon sword, brazilian pennywort, java moss, and other low light stuff.


If not, going to get t5ho setup or LED. Thanks for your time.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:34 PM   #2
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hi bro,
i think i have the same set up as yours.
only difference is our lighting fixture. i am using t5HO lights (1 is plant bulb and the other is 10000k bulb)

plants that survived after 16 months are the valis, dwarf sag, amazon sword, some crypts and java moss.
here's a pic of my tank


how big are your discus?

good luck on your tank!

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Old 01-15-2013, 11:55 PM   #3
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Plant should do fine as long you dose fert.
Give the plant some iron tab you should be set.

I'm running one t8 shop light on my 75g.
Only plant ain't doing so good is my HC.
All my Crypt are melting since they came from being grow out of water.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:57 PM   #4
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If the fixture has good reflectors... yes. But if it has poor reflectors like the coral life t5 NO then its not very adequate light. I have the coral life on my 26 and it is simply not good enough to have truly lush plant growth.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:22 AM   #5
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I think you'll find over time that your current lighting is not quite adequate enough to do the job you're looking for, with the plants you're contemplating, although the discus would probably love the low light atmosphere.

I have roughly the same-sized, low tech planted discus tank, with a 36" light fixture of 2 X 39 watt T5 HO bulbs (approx. 3" above the tank top rim) which I feel does a really nice job.

Have a look if you care to:
http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/...spaul/Sept2011 OR
http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/...aul/lolliblues
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:48 AM   #6
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Best way to tell if the fixture will produce enough light would be to borrow, buy, build a PAR meter. This will help you nail the perfect light intensity for a low-tech, which is important for avoiding algea.

If you do need to upgrade, I would highly recommend looking into LED fixtures.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:51 AM   #7
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Discuspaul- You have BEAUTIFUL tanks with beautiful fish. Love, love, love!

Apologies to the OP for not staying on topic, but.... his tanks are just so pretty!
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:13 AM   #8
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Discuspaul - awesome tank! is that an El Natural tank?
wheariesl337 - how can i build a PAR meter?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:46 AM   #9
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Thanks for the kind words, naturelady and extrame.
As I mentioned, I keep things low-tech simple for discus. I have pool filter sand for substrate, so I use root tab ferts, and occasional moderate liquid fert dosing, and that's it. - 7 hr./day lighting period, and 60% water changes, 2 or 3 X a week.

You might also like this one:
http://s1105.photobucket.com/albums/...3RedSnakeSkins
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:28 AM   #10
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Do you think discus would survive in an El natural tank?
i don't do any water change in my tank. i just top it off once a week.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:06 PM   #11
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Do you think discus would survive in an El natural tank?
i don't do any water change in my tank. i just top it off once a week.
Nope. And if they do they won't be happy.
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There is a detailed post in the DIY section on how to convert a LUX meter to a PAR meter.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:46 PM   #13
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Nope. And if they do they won't be happy.

Agree.
Discus will not likely survive for very long in any tank that does not receive large water changes on a regular, fairly frequent basis.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:50 PM   #14
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Do you think discus would survive in an El natural tank?
i don't do any water change in my tank. i just top it off once a week.
I don't think any fish would be happy with no water changes. That's just laziness.

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I don't think any fish would be happy with no water changes. That's just laziness.

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Agree, discus or not water change should be done.
Once per week or month. I do 80% weekly for the first 3 month.
After that I do 50% per 2 week.

Some guy do 10 water change in 6 yr using a sump/ refugium
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