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Old 09-19-2005, 05:45 PM   #1
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ODNO - Series Wiring for 24"


Hi,
This may be redundancy to ask but...I have purchased an advance (4)F32T8 ballast and want to OD 2 24" NO's. For now I only have 1 ballast ($29.00 bucks at Lowes). I have read Gullf's posts regarding ODNO in series to make the ballast think the 2 24" bulbs are 1 48" bulb. I can not figure out how to do this...I have 2 blue wires, 2 red wires, 2 yellow wires and the black & white power wires. I fried my last ballast trying this so any help would be appreciated. I am new to working with high voltage (i'm a PC tech so low-voltage is what i've delt with). I can tell a slight difference with this ballast than the magnetic ballast that came with the fixture.....
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:21 PM   #2
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Please give the exactly model number of the ballast to be sure it will work. Only Advance REL-4P32-SC(instant start) will work. Advance Rapid Start ballasts will NOT work.

The wiring goes like this: 2red+2blue ALL go to ONE end of Bulb A. 2 yellow both go to one end of Bulb B. Use a wire of your own to connect the free ends of bulb A and bulb B together. Whenever you need to connect multiple leads to one endcap, you can jumper them together with a wirenut and then use a single lead to connect to the endcap. It is recommended and will make reconfiguration of ODNO very easy.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:00 PM   #3
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Thanks. When I get home I'll reply with the Ballast model number. If it will not work i'll have to take it back....or be stuck with a $29.00 ballast that does not work...I should have bought the workhorse from that website Gulf Mentioned....sheesh
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:47 PM   #4
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Okay...the model is Advance ICN4P32SC, It is an electronic Instant Start Ballast for 4 32T8. What do you think? Should this work?

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Old 09-20-2005, 03:31 AM   #5
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:11 PM   #6
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I am not familiar with this model, in the ODNO thread and in the replay I gave to you in your other thread, REL-4P32-SC was mentioned. Let me look it up with google and in the ODNO thread... It seems very similar to the other model, except this one can actually handle voltage 120-277v:
http://www.advancetransformer.com/up...L-2030-R04.pdf

I would use it, no reason it should not work. Observe how it fires up initially, make sure no smoke is coming out
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:01 AM   #7
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Shalu,
Sorry for the missing wiring diagram, I had to revamp a website I was working on and accidently deleted the image. This may be wrong but I figured that I would post it and find out. I'm usually pretty good about figuring stuff out but I don't want to fry another ballast .... I originally connected it using normal output wiring. It fires up "instantly" instead of blink,blink...light (hahaha). Event at NO it looks like it is giving more light than the magnetic ballast that came with the (2) 24" fixture. I'm using 1 24" t12 acentic (sp) and one 10,000K bulb. My little corals on my Live rock have all opened up like they are supposed to. I bought T12's because the Rapid Start ballast was for T12's and I read somewhere that you could not use T8's on a T12 ballast so I wasn't going to try it.
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that is WRONG. Read my first post again, CAREFULLY.

You are mis-informed about bulb sizes. You CAN use different sizes, read my post here:
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21257
The smaller, the better(more light). T8, or T6(new on the market).

ALL red(2)+blue(2) go to SAME end of BULB A ONLY. You can jumper all 4 wires together and use a single wire to go the the bulb.
BOTH yellow go to SAME END of Bulb B ONLY. You can also jumper the two wires with a wire nut and use a single wire to connect.

Your diagram was correct about that so far, but read the following carefully:

Now you have one end of Bulb A and one end of Bulb B that have nothing connected, now take a wire and connect them from one bulb to another.

By the way, the 10000k bulb is fine with plants, but the actinic bulb is only useful for saltwater, it won't do much for plants.
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I hope this is right. I hate to keep bothering you with my uncomprehensiveness of this matter. I guess that would explain the smoke from my 1st ballast (and the fact that it was Rapid Start) I can't tell you how much I have appriciated your help...
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Please provide an updated diagram after going through my previous post, so we make sure you connect this correctly.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:51 AM   #11
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Sorry about that...try it now.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:53 AM   #12
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hahaha, good job, you got it! That's exactly what I had
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Talking You Rock Shalu!!!!

THANKS SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!
I'll try it and let you know soon.....
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Default Wired and working so far - not smoking :)

Shalu,
I wired it just like you suggested, when I plugged it in it lit the room up. I am still seeing little spots....I moved the canopy back on my tank and plugged it in. I can deffinately see a difference. With the standard wiring, there is still too much blue, with this it is only slightly blue...since it's salt water it needs to be. I need to replace them with T8's some time but I just bought them (drs. Foster & smith had a sale). Thanks again, i'll keep you posted.
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Quote:
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With the standard wiring, there is still too much blue, with this it is only slightly blue...since it's salt water it needs to be.
I thought you had a freshwater plantedtank, and suggested to replace the actinic bulb
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