New Tiger Shrimp Morph - White/Ghost Tiger Orange Eyes

Hobbes1911 · 01-26-2013, 01:33 AM

haha ... ugh me dumb sometimes. let's try this one: http://onguru.de/hundkatzem/aquarium.../garnelen.html

wicca27 · 01-26-2013, 02:25 AM

wow i like those its a shame we cant get then and that they are so hard to keep.

Hobbes1911 · 01-26-2013, 03:26 AM

yea the breeder i spoke to said the problem is two-fold: 1. the gene pool is small since no one is really keeping them. 2. they are rather inbred and thus are sensitive to any change. He assured me that at least 2/3 wouldn't make the transit and that's really not worth it.

pinoyghost2 · 01-26-2013, 11:41 AM

I had both the blue and red and bred them here, however my experience with them is that they are very slow maturing shrimps (not like the TTs) and they tend to stay at the surface all the time. I found them always hanging in the floating plants rather than on the bottom.

If I fed any food that landed on the bottom they wouldn't bother with it, so I would have to keep using only food that would float around the surface area for them. Weird I know.

I would get both red and blue babies though and they were a very nice color. I sold off mine to another hobbyists.

I purchased them from an LFS in Canada that is owned by a German man who imports all his livestock from Germany and they were labeled as blue tigers, but they were in fact Blue Tuepfel or Aura Blue as they were later called in the US. I knew they weren't Tigers, I thought they were another blue shrimp called Indian Blue. Took me a while to get the info from Germany on them, and by that time I couldn't get any more.

james0816 · 01-26-2013, 02:36 PM

well....this little project looks to be dead. Just checked on the tank and get this....the males eyes turned normal. Back to black eyes! Dang it!

I didn't move anybody back to the main tank. I'm wondering if there may still be something here to explore???

wicca27 · 01-26-2013, 05:09 PM

james i would keep up with the project no tellin what might come from it. even if the eyes turned black its still a white shrimp so is still a possible color morph. i would run with it for a while and see what happens

**Soothing Shrimp** · 01-26-2013, 05:12 PM

I agree. I'd still try the white coloration.

PuddlesAqua · 01-26-2013, 05:14 PM

Clear/white tigers with black eyes are still kind of cool, keep going!

james0816 · 01-26-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PuddlesAqua

Clear/white tigers with black eyes are still kind of cool, keep going!

But that would be just a regular Tiger then...just of a different species though.

Ok...I'll leave them where they sit for now and just see what happens from here. Man....he looked soooooo kewl with them orange eyes too. Was on the verge of freakiness I thought.

**Soothing Shrimp** · 01-26-2013, 11:18 PM

One thing I have l;earned working with morphs and mutations is that you may start with one thing and wind up with something else entirely that's really cool. Wait until you see future generations before making any "stopping" decisions.

Do you have a recent pic of them with the black eyes?

trstarr69 · 01-27-2013, 01:08 AM

All I can say is way cool.

james0816 · 01-28-2013, 08:08 PM

Well this project has just taken another turn.....

checked on the wee ones just now and the males eyes have turned back to orange!! Now how wierd is that?

As an added bonus...one of the ladies is now berried!

Progessing right along......

**Soothing Shrimp** · 01-28-2013, 09:02 PM

Interesting to see if the eye changes keep happening, or if somehow they were perhaps not lit with lighting when you saw them last.

In rats and hamsters, there is an eye color called ruby. Basically it looks black until a light is shined near them, then they look a dark red.

Here's a pic of an odd eyed rat so you can see the difference. (Not mine.) One eye is pink (right of picture), the other ruby (left of picture.). This was taken with flash to show the difference more clearly.

A pic of a black eyed rat with flash to show the difference better.

james0816 · 01-29-2013, 11:23 AM

That's freaky.

One thing I'm guessing was that the water change may have something to do with it. The next day after the WC is when I noticed the black eyes. It wasn't until yesterday when I saw they were back to orange. Kinda kewl.

**Soothing Shrimp** · 01-29-2013, 02:42 PM

Eye color differs on temp? That is weird.

01-26-2013, 05:12 PM	#67
Soothing Shrimp Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (72/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521	I agree. I'd still try the white coloration. __________________ DBP Club! My thinking has been invert-ed!

01-26-2013, 11:18 PM	#70
Soothing Shrimp Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (72/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521	One thing I have l;earned working with morphs and mutations is that you may start with one thing and wind up with something else entirely that's really cool. Wait until you see future generations before making any "stopping" decisions. Do you have a recent pic of them with the black eyes? __________________ DBP Club! My thinking has been invert-ed!

01-28-2013, 09:02 PM	#73
Soothing Shrimp Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (72/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521	Interesting to see if the eye changes keep happening, or if somehow they were perhaps not lit with lighting when you saw them last. In rats and hamsters, there is an eye color called ruby. Basically it looks black until a light is shined near them, then they look a dark red. Here's a pic of an odd eyed rat so you can see the difference. (Not mine.) One eye is pink (right of picture), the other ruby (left of picture.). This was taken with flash to show the difference more clearly. A pic of a black eyed rat with flash to show the difference better. __________________ DBP Club! My thinking has been invert-ed!

01-29-2013, 02:42 PM	#75
Soothing Shrimp Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (72/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521	Eye color differs on temp? That is weird. __________________ DBP Club! My thinking has been invert-ed!

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01-26-2013, 01:33 AM	#61
Hobbes1911 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (16/100%) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,219	haha ... ugh me dumb sometimes. let's try this one: http://onguru.de/hundkatzem/aquarium.../garnelen.html

01-26-2013, 02:25 AM	#62
wicca27 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Knox Posts: 2,681	wow i like those its a shame we cant get then and that they are so hard to keep.

01-26-2013, 03:26 AM	#63
Hobbes1911 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (16/100%) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,219	yea the breeder i spoke to said the problem is two-fold: 1. the gene pool is small since no one is really keeping them. 2. they are rather inbred and thus are sensitive to any change. He assured me that at least 2/3 wouldn't make the transit and that's really not worth it.

01-26-2013, 11:41 AM	#64
pinoyghost2 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 316	I had both the blue and red and bred them here, however my experience with them is that they are very slow maturing shrimps (not like the TTs) and they tend to stay at the surface all the time. I found them always hanging in the floating plants rather than on the bottom. If I fed any food that landed on the bottom they wouldn't bother with it, so I would have to keep using only food that would float around the surface area for them. Weird I know. I would get both red and blue babies though and they were a very nice color. I sold off mine to another hobbyists. I purchased them from an LFS in Canada that is owned by a German man who imports all his livestock from Germany and they were labeled as blue tigers, but they were in fact Blue Tuepfel or Aura Blue as they were later called in the US. I knew they weren't Tigers, I thought they were another blue shrimp called Indian Blue. Took me a while to get the info from Germany on them, and by that time I couldn't get any more.

01-26-2013, 02:36 PM	#65
james0816 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (60/100%) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VA Posts: 2,016	well....this little project looks to be dead. Just checked on the tank and get this....the males eyes turned normal. Back to black eyes! Dang it! I didn't move anybody back to the main tank. I'm wondering if there may still be something here to explore???

01-26-2013, 05:09 PM	#66
wicca27 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Knox Posts: 2,681	james i would keep up with the project no tellin what might come from it. even if the eyes turned black its still a white shrimp so is still a possible color morph. i would run with it for a while and see what happens

01-26-2013, 05:14 PM	#68
PuddlesAqua Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (7/100%) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 405	Clear/white tigers with black eyes are still kind of cool, keep going!

01-27-2013, 01:08 AM	#71
trstarr69 Newbie (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: wayland, mi Posts: 1	All I can say is way cool.

01-28-2013, 08:08 PM	#72
james0816 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (60/100%) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VA Posts: 2,016	Well this project has just taken another turn..... checked on the wee ones just now and the males eyes have turned back to orange!! Now how wierd is that? As an added bonus...one of the ladies is now berried! Progessing right along......

01-29-2013, 11:23 AM	#74
james0816 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (60/100%) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VA Posts: 2,016	That's freaky. One thing I'm guessing was that the water change may have something to do with it. The next day after the WC is when I noticed the black eyes. It wasn't until yesterday when I saw they were back to orange. Kinda kewl.