New Tiger Shrimp Morph - White/Ghost Tiger Orange Eyes

[Soothing Shrimp]

Yepper.

Just to clearify:

P1 white ---> F1 No Whites but carry it in the genes ---> (F1 x F1) and (P1 x F1) ---> Some whites [if simple recessive]

The challenge is that shrimp tend to throw me off since they don't follow simple Mendelian genetics.

[pinoyghost2]

so just to show you what a hybrid tt x cbs cross looks like, here is a few of mine. You can see the black stripes from the Tiger gene and the white banding from the CBS/Bee gene. They also have spots on some too which comes from the TT. All are Orange in color!

I am wondering what you might get if you crossed a TT x Snowball shrimp? These TTs breed with anything.

Hey we could breed them to my hybrids and see what comes out

[Soothing Shrimp]

Thanks for sharing those pics.

[james0816]

Ok....well I finally got around to doing this. Every day I keep seeing the Orange eyes and tell myself to seperate them. Always forgot to do it.

Today, I pulled one orange eye male and two very nice looking females. I didn't immediately find the other orange male and wasn't about to tear the tank up again. I'll move him later when/if I find him again.

I may do some more tanks moves as I'm not overly excited about the pH levels in the two tanks that they are in. The original tank and the one I'm experimenting with.

We'll see what happens......

[Soothing Shrimp]

Good luck and PLEASE keep us posted! This is how we learn more about the hobby, by people sharing information.

[james0816]

All three have survived the acclimation. One lady is saddled. Now we wait.....

[rodcuda]

FYI on the albino horse topic. It is called lethal white and is common when breeding certain paint horses.

[Soothing Shrimp]

That's what Ravensgate was telling me, too. Seems unless another albino mutation pops up in horses, that particular one is a bad one.

[wicca27]

albino ferrets can be common as well i had a baby that was colored had the normal dark mask but had white ears and pink eyes. he was deaf. i contacted the breeder and found out in ferrets albino is linked to being deaf. so even though he only had a bit of white and the eyes it was enough to cause the problem. ...... any who back on subject, i cant wait to see what comes of this crossing and hope its something cool do keep us updated

[james0816]

Almost tainted my little project here. I got to looking at the new tank where everybody is in just to make sure all is ok. Upon a closer glance, I found one of the females is actually male. Whew! I immediately removed him and put him back. I picked another female from the main TT tank (she's already berried so I know it's a gal ) and have her ready to acclimate.

Mission continues.......

[Merth]

Im new to this so may not know what I'm talking about but wouldnt it be better to put the new gal already berried in a breeder box til she has the pups :0 then put her in the iso tank?

[PuddlesAqua]

Really cool shrimp. Hope the breeding process goes well.

[CPD]

Very interesting. Will be following this closesly

[pinoyghost2]

I would have separated them just into a large marina breeder box until a: the new female gets berried, then take out the male and/or b: keep both females and the male in the same box, the first female will drop the babies and probably molt right away and get jumped by the male, so you will have her berried again in no time, then you could remove the male to the new tank setup, where the females can go after releasing their babies in the breeder box. The box will give you more opportunity to see the babies clearly and watch them grow up a bit....decide if this is your new strain or not.

You could just leave the male in the tank you've created for them, and give him another male to keep him company while these females have their babies.

Once you see if the babies are the same color/eyes then you can decide to put them all together in the one tank/or move them back (should they not have produced the white coloring/orange eyes) to the original tank.

With the already berried female you don't know if a regular TT male got her or the white one, so putting her in to have babies all over the tank will not give you the answer you need.

She needs to be separated so you can see the babies. With the regular TT babies, I noticed the orange color almost from day one....if any of these babies are white and stay that way then you will know you have something to work with...if not put them back in the main tank to grow up.

Concentrate on keeping the white ones completely separated until you see new arrivals...otherwise once 2 sets of babies are in a tank you won't know who had what?

I separate my hybrid females until I see the babies that way I can document the outcome of F1 and F2 etc.

[Merth]

Originally Posted by pinoyghost2

I would have separated them just into a large marina breeder box until a: the new female gets berried, then take out the male and/or b: keep both females and the male in the same box, the first female will drop the babies and probably molt right away and get jumped by the male, so you will have her berried again in no time, then you could remove the male to the new tank setup, where the females can go after releasing their babies in the breeder box. The box will give you more opportunity to see the babies clearly and watch them grow up a bit....decide if this is your new strain or not.

You could just leave the male in the tank you've created for them, and give him another male to keep him company while these females have their babies.

Once you see if the babies are the same color/eyes then you can decide to put them all together in the one tank/or move them back (should they not have produced the white coloring/orange eyes) to the original tank.

With the already berried female you don't know if a regular TT male got her or the white one, so putting her in to have babies all over the tank will not give you the answer you need.

She needs to be separated so you can see the babies. With the regular TT babies, I noticed the orange color almost from day one....if any of these babies are white and stay that way then you will know you have something to work with...if not put them back in the main tank to grow up.

Concentrate on keeping the white ones completely separated until you see new arrivals...otherwise once 2 sets of babies are in a tank you won't know who had what?

I separate my hybrid females until I see the babies that way I can document the outcome of F1 and F2 etc.

+1 I was hoping I wasnt crazy