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Old 01-04-2013, 12:53 AM   #1
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Tropica's New Ferts + Confusion & Questions


Tropica has two new (at least to me) ferts on the market?



Plant Growth "Specialized" Fertiliser & Plant Growth "Premium" Fertiliser. Specialized contains nitrogen and phosphorus while premium doesn't. Specialized is meant for tanks with lots of plants and few fish and premium is meant for tanks with lots of fish and fewer plants...

My question is which one do you chose for tanks with both a high number of fish and a dense amount of plants? Tropica in all it's wisdom isn't catering to my middle ground so I'm kinda confused as to which to chose. Also, I am unable to find the "composition" of both products. They publicize the N&P but as to what else each contains, so far I can't find that info
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:08 AM   #2
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Just a guess but it's not middle ground here. Ferts are for plants not fish and fish can only add more of what plants need so...

Though I would wait until they publicize the complete list of what is in them or just write them to find out. http://www.tropica.com/en/about-trop...t-tropica.aspx I'm sure they will not object to inquiries.
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Ferts *are* for plants. The more fish you have the more ferts you need, within reason. I use Seachem Florish Comprehensive, which is a micronutrient. With lots of plants you need to follow the directions + a little more, but not too much. Watch how the plants are growing as an indicator of whether to reduce the dose. You can start with a little less and add more as there is more bioload.
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This should get you pointed in the right direction and save yourself a bit of change.

Save your money by doing something similar to this.

I would do things a bit differently like using distilled water and adding either excel or hydrochloric acid to the trace mix only (because of the chelators in it) but that's just me.

You may also want to read this. It will clear up some things for you.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do and happy planting
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Is Tropica's new line available in the US? I like the pretty bottles .
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:28 PM   #6
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Premium
K 0.80%, Mg 0,39%, S 0.91%, B 0.004%, Cu 0.006%, Fe 0.07%,
Mn 0.04%, Mo 0.002%, Zn 0.002%.
HEEDTA, DTPA, E123.

Specialized
N 1.34%, P 0.10%, K 1.03%, Mg 0,39%, S 0.91%, B 0.004%,
Cu 0.006%, Fe 0.07%, Mn 0.04%, Mo 0.002%, Zn 0.002%.
HEEDTA, DTPA, E123.

What say you?
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If you have your mind set on using that then perhaps this will sway you into making your own.

DIY Tropica Plant Nutrition Plus by James

or

How to make DIY Tropica Plant Nutrition by Wet

Ultimately it's your call, you're the one who has to determine how much you are wiling to spend on a bottle that contains roughly 95% water.
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Tropica has two new (at least to me) ferts on the market?



Plant Growth "Specialized" Fertiliser & Plant Growth "Premium" Fertiliser. Specialized contains nitrogen and phosphorus while premium doesn't. Specialized is meant for tanks with lots of plants and few fish and premium is meant for tanks with lots of fish and fewer plants...

My question is which one do you chose for tanks with both a high number of fish and a dense amount of plants? Tropica in all it's wisdom isn't catering to my middle ground so I'm kinda confused as to which to chose.
Middle ground? That's easy.

Buy both and mix 1:1
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