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Old 02-18-2012, 03:09 AM   #1
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37 gallon column planted tank - a step at a time


37 gallon column

Front view latest photo 5-8-2012:



Angle view latest photo 5-5-2012:



Side view latest photo 5-5-2012:



Plants:

Anubias lanceolata [Anubias barteri Schott var. angustifolia (Engler) Crusio] added 4-9-2012
Anubias nana [Anubias barteri Schott var. nana (Engler) Crusio] added 4-9-2012
Telanthera cardinalis [Alternanthera reineckii 'cardinalis'] added 4-11-2012
Dwarf Hairgrass [Eleocharis parvula] added 4-11-2012
Anubias nana 'petite' added 5-3-2012
Java fern narrow leaf added 5-3-2012
Rotala added 5-4-2012
Cryptocoryne (Cryptocoryne wendtii 'Green') added 5-4-2012
Cabomba added 5-7-2012

Fish:

9 Ember Tetra (moved from another tank) added 5-6-2012
5 Glolight Tetra (moved from another tank) added 5-6-2012 [-2 overnight]
2 Long Finned Serpae Tetra (moved from another tank) added 5-6-2012
2 Black Phantom Tetra (moved from another tank) added 5-6-2012
7 Brown Pencilfish (wild caught) [Nannostomus eques] added 5-7-2012
6 Blue Ram added 5-7-2012
12 Green Kubotai Rasbora (Microdevario kubotai) added 5-10-2012

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Old 02-18-2012, 03:11 AM   #2
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The tank will be a replacement for an old television. I've grown tired of this TV from 1989. It's time for something a little more interesting to watch.


view when seated at the desk
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Old 02-18-2012, 04:01 AM   #3
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Wow that's a relic!
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:35 AM   #4
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It's about time to get this tank put together.

Items already on-hand or bought recently for this project:

10 gallon Aqueon aquarium *
Eheim Classic 2213 External Canister Filter *
CaribSea black aquarium sand substrate
Marineland ML Double Bright LED, 18-in (24-inch)
Lee's Flex Aquarium Tubing, clear, 1/2-Inch by 100-Foot
Top Fin Small Strip Aquarium Thermometer
GE 15089 Digital Timer *
Aqueon Versa Top for 10 gallon aquarium (20") *
Rust-Oleum protective enamel flat black oil-based paint
4 Ebony Lava rocks
CaribSea Eco-Complete Planted Aquarium Substrate 20 lb
Hydor THEO Submersible Aquarium Heater 50W UL *
Seachem Flourish Excel 500ml
RO Right - 1000 g
Eheim Classic 2215 External Canister Filter
HM Digital Pocket Size TDS Meter TDS-4 Water Quality Tester
Hydor ETH 201 In-Line Heater 200W for 16mm (5/8") Hose
Marineland 37 Column Black Aquarium (20x18x24) [UPC 0 47497 11371 4]
Perfecto Manufacturing Calypso Geometric Series MD70814 aquarium stand 20x18 (Burlwood/Black)
Perfecto Glass Canopy (20x18) [UPC 0 47497 34200 8]
10 feet 5/8" ID (3/4" OD) Clear Flexible Vinyl Hose
2 x Hose Barb Reducer 5/8" x 1/2"
5 x Malaysian Driftwood, large
Hydrofarm MTPRTC Digital Thermostat For Heat Mats
2nd Marineland ML Double Bright LED, 18-in (24-inch)
2 x GE Heavy Duty Digital Timer (15117)
4 x brass cup hooks
Utilitech UTPB2225 Surge Protector – 6 outlets *
12" x 12" slate tiles
#10 x 2" and #10 x 1-1/2" stainless steel screws
Aqueon Silicone Aquarium Sealant *
Acryllic tube 1/2" x 4' *
Acryllic tube 5/8" x 4' *
Rena 720P Filstar XP Filter Parts Tray
Eheim Everyday Fish Feeder Programmable Automatic Food Dispenser
Coralife ENE15601 Turbo Twist 6X UV Sterilizer, 18-Watt
Belkin Metal Case Surge Protector 10 outlets 15ft
GE Heavy Duty Digital Timer (15117)
Extech RE300 ExStik ORP Meter
Top Fin Air Stone
Top Fin Silicone Airline Tubing - Black
Commodity Axis, Inc. Million Air MA-200

Items on order:



Still needed, or to be considered:

Marineland Aquatic Plant Lighting System, 18-in (24-inch)
3rd Marineland ML Double Bright LED, 18-in (24-inch)
Canopy
Uninteruptible Power Supply
Pressurized CO2

* Items that will not be used for this project after all

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Old 02-29-2012, 05:05 AM   #5
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I changed my mind on the tank. I have ordered a 20 gallon extra high. This tank has the same footprint as a standard 10 gallon tank, but is twice as tall. It is also called a 20 gallon show tank. My biggest concern about this tank is that being 24 inches tall, it may not be a bright enough light.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:23 PM   #6
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Good luck on your tank. I wanted to help with seeing if the light is bright enough but I don't know anything about LEDs.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:51 PM   #7
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Good luck on your tank. I wanted to help with seeing if the light is bright enough but I don't know anything about LEDs.
Just about everything shows data in terms of watts per gallon. That might work for fluorescent, but not for LEDs. Now, if I had a light meter, I could just make measurements. But I think those are expensive (?).
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:46 PM   #8
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Yes they are expensive. I've never used one but I've heard of people using them in fish clubs or society. So maybe in your area a local club might have one you can borrow.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:05 AM   #9
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The 20 gallon extra high (20x10x24) is just not going so well. The seller in New York that I ordered from was able to confirm before shipping that their description on their website for a 20 gallon tank was not what they were going to ship. They were going to send me a light. Lousy, cheap website. They still haven't fixed their ad.

Still looking for alternatives to this 10 gallon tank. That 20 gallon extra high just doesn't sound good after going to the local fish store and seeing a tank just like this picture.



The store keeper is checking on availability of a version that is about 6 inches shorter. I think this 47 gallon one is maybe just a bit too tall. With a planted tank, it would be difficult to reach the substrate. Also, probably not enough light would penetrate to the bottom. In either case, I would likely get a second Marineland Double-Bright 18" light.
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Old 03-11-2012, 05:14 AM   #10
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I have my 37 gallon column tank (20x18x24) on order through the local fish store. Also, on order is the stand as seen in the picture in the prior post.

Most of the parts are here now. But I really need a focal piece to go in the tank. What I want is maybe a piece of driftwood that looks like a tree stump. I went hunting for driftwood on the riverbank today. I found wood, but not the stump I want.

Here is a piece that I really liked. If it is in good a condition as I think it is, I'll clean it up good, sterilize it, soak it, then dry it to use in a future tank. It looks like it will need a 120 gallon tank (48x24x25) or maybe 180 gallons (72x24x25) to fit comfortably and in proportion to the size of the tank.

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Old 03-17-2012, 02:15 AM   #11
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I made it home with tank and stand in one trip.


37 gallon column tank, stand, cover, and light.


Next will be to paint the back and the right side. To take it beyond that, I need to find the driftwood to use in this tank. I want to have that worked out before adding water or substrate.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:32 AM   #12
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Here is the first view of my new 37 gallon column aquarium tank on the stand where it will be displayed. The paint on the back and on the right side is dry after curing in the garage for a few days.

The front view is seen form the chair at the computer desk. This is just over 3 feet away.



The local fish store will have a fresh supply of driftwood tomorrow. Hopefully the shopkeeper remembered to ask the supplier for a tree stump with roots. I would like this to be able to reach the top of the aquarium, or nearly so.

If nothing is available that I like, I'll have to go back down to the river and hunt for driftwood

I like the lava rock and the piece of driftwood I have placed in here, but it is just not enough. It'll probably be better moved more to the middle-ground. I want to fill the background space with Eco-Complete and the tree stump. The foreground would be black sand for substrate, hopefully 1-1/2 to 2 inches thick. I'm not sure that I have enough on hand for that.

In this first picture, there is one Marineland Double-Bright LED lamp lighting the scene. A second one is on order to be delivered next week. Hopefully that will be enough light to grow plants down to 24" below the surface.
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That is a great look tank and stand! Can't wait to see some progress
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nice, i have the same tank.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:46 AM   #15
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That is a great look tank and stand! Can't wait to see some progress
Thanks! I am really excited about this tank.

Today I picked up five large pieces of Malaysian driftwood from the local fish store. It is the same place I got the small piece pictured above. At the store, these new pieces didn't look so large together. But looking at them with the tank, and then with loading them into a plastic crate for soaking, it's a good possibility I will not be using all the wood. I do want a good amount of wood here, but I also want a lot of plants to grow, and some open space for fish to swim.

From the experience I had with getting the tannins out of the small pieces of Malaysian driftwood I used on my nano tanks project, I expect it to be a few days before the wood can go in this tank. I don't want the water to turn brown when I get the Nitrogen cycle started. And I don't want to have to do water changes for week/months just for the purpose of getting the brown out.

Since these pieces of wood are so large, I can't pressure cook them like all the smaller pieces. Even pressure cooking took three to four days of cooking for five or six hours each day. It worked well for those small pieces. With these large pieces, I am just soaking them in a combination of the hottest tap water I can draw, mixed with boiling water off the stove. I'll change the water at least once a day with hot water until I am satisfied my aquarium water will stay clear enough.

Then I need to figure out what to do about plants. The plants in the background will need to be varieties that grow tall. But I would really rather they not all be very fast growers. And for the foreground, I thought I might like a carpet of microsword, or baby tears, or something else. I need to find what it will take to get them to fill in well, before making selections. I would rather not do a dry start, but if that is the only way to really get it done, then I'll just have to go that route.

As an alternative to large plants in the background, it might work to just tie smaller plants or moss to the driftwood. Maybe a combination of all these plantings will be where this goes. I want to try to carefully choose plants that will all go well together in low pH, soft water, and to select fish that will work well in the same. Also, I am concerned about the amount of light with two Marineland Double Bright LED fixtures.



Looking at that chart, I am thinking it may have been better to get a fixture that would better fill in the red spectrum for plant growth with the second light. Maybe I will look for a red supplement light that I could just have turned on during part of the daily light cycle. But the red would still likely not penetrate the water all the way to the carpet. Hmmm.
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