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Old 02-23-2011, 05:52 AM   #1
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29 Gal Amazon Biotope 'Blackwater Bog'


So i got a hand-me-down 29gal from a friend :P. Pondered for a few days about what i wanted to put in it.Then... I remembered about German and Bolivian Rams! While researching rams i came across tons of sweet info about these fish and other 'blackwater' fishes. I WAS SOLD.

So heres what im thinking... Authentic Blackwater Biotop... Tannins and all.

EQUIPMENT
Tank: 29Gal
Heater: 1x Jager 300w
Filter: AC 70 w/ Pre-filters, bulk mechanical filter, Bag of Seachem Matrix, and bag of peat moss. [I might not use this filter as everything i read about the flora and fauna I've choose likes to still water. These filters seem to flow A LOT. I would rather find a canister and 'diffuse' the output with a PVC with holes drilled in it.
Co2: Not sure about the need?
Lighting: Not much.

SUBSTRATE
#30 Silica Sand from Home Depot = $8.00/100lbs

HARDSCAPE
Lots of natural bogwood, leaves, bark?, and rocks.

FAUNA
Top
Silver Hatchet [Gasteropelecus sternicla]: 10-12 -- They tend to do better in larger groups.
Middle/Low
German Blue Ram: AT LEAST 1 pair.
Middle
Tetras: Haven't settled on variety or amount. At least 15-20. I want a school.
Bottom
Cories: Also haven't settled on variety or amount.


Seems like a lot of fish but they will all have their place and filter will handle bioload.

FLORA
Depending on availability...
Amazon Sword [Echinodorus amazonicus]
Star Grass [Heteranthera zosterifolia]
Coontail [Ceratophyllum demersum]
Tape grass [Jungle Vallisneria]
Green Cabomba

IDEAL PARAMETERS
pH: 6.0
Temp: 82F

CHEMICALS AND ADDITIVES
Seachem American Cichlid Salt
Kent Marine Black Water Expert
Ferts: ?

PLAN
So essentially my plan is to cycle the tank [Obviously] with straight unconditioned tap water and a whole filter [AC70] that is in my Oscar set up. Then add the substrate. decor, and plants. Run for awhile so the plants can grow then add the Hatchets. Wait a week, add the Tetras. Wait a few weeks, add the cories. THEN if everything is going good for a few weeks add my cichlids.


I'm open to comments, suggestions, constructive criticism, or great ideas or places to find some of this stuff.

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Old 02-23-2011, 06:00 AM   #2
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this is what i was wanting to do as well. your thread has given me a good starting point! although mine is a 20 long.

it just seems like a LOT of cichlids. your tank is only a 29 gal ( am i right? ) thats 2 GBRs and 6+ other dwarf cichlids
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:05 AM   #3
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Agreed. Scrap the dwarf cichlids, keep the rams. Its just too many and they will compete for territory.

Forget the cories, get HONEYCOMB CATFISH!
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:06 AM   #4
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honeycombs are cool! i may try them
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:10 AM   #5
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How many rams do you think is a good amount?

Ive heard the best to do is get like 2 females per male while they are young so they can choose on their own.
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are you planning on breeding them? if you are, youll want to plan your other fishes accordingly.

not sure how many rams though. i would probably go with just one pair. at least to start
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breeding wasnt my first priority no. But, if the mood is right =P id like them to be a compatible pair.
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are you planning on buying them as an established pair?
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:20 AM   #9
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are you planning on breeding them? if you are, youll want to plan your other fishes accordingly.

not sure how many rams though. i would probably go with just one pair. at least to start
+1 I think just one male and a couple female GBR's would be perfect for a 29 gallon with a few shoaling fish to fill in the mid/top swimming area.

I thought too many tannins in the column would "eat up" the light for the plants?
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One pair is really all you should keep in a 29g.

Get 6 juvies, find the best ones who pair up and return the others.

I would not keep Bolivian with with GBR's as they are more aggressive and will harass smaller tetras. Have you looked at kribenesis? Another cool dwarf cichlid. I loved my apistogramma 'double flame' but those are more sensitive and even with daily waterchanges with 50% r/o water they didn't make it
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If the occasion arises yes. This would be ideal. But thats why i was thinking about getting 'several' because i don't know what the chances are of this. Or i could just get 2-3 females and one male. That way there would be no aggression between males.
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+1 I think just one male and a couple female GBR's would be perfect for a 29 gallon with a few shoaling fish to fill in the mid/top swimming area.
Don't get multiple females, one will pair with the male and they will harass the other females to no end.
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Hmm... will just one male and one female get a long if they arent a 'proven' pair?
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im not sure. i was kind-of wondering this myself
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Don't get multiple females, one will pair with the male and they will harass the other females to no end. Quote~

Yep, they can and will. Can hopefully return the other or sell locally.....or set up another tank
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