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Old 12-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #31
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:06 PM   #32
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It was pointed out to me that the new tank may be lacking in nitrates while it cycles, and this may be why the frogbit is suffering. I’m going to dose nitrate when I get home tonight.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #33
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Nutrifin is what Speedie408 uses, and since I got the shrimp from him, and he breeds them successfully, I'm doing my best to mimic his conditions. Lots of people use lots of different remineralizers though with great success.

I'm starting with 14.
What are you usingNutrifin for ?? Nutrifin is the brand can you please let us know what type of Nutrifin you are using?
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sorry I couldn't find much info on the shrimp soils, next time I hope they are for sale.

what tank did you pick?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:35 PM   #35
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Betta - I wouldn't add nitrates, but that's me. Your main focus should be those expensive shrimp, not the plants. Having zero nitrates is actually best for keeping shrimp. Dump the frogbit .

Jczernia - Nutrifin African Chiclid Conditioner is what I've been telling folks to use. It works! And it's CHEAP compared to shrimp specific brands! I use it for all my tanks.
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Betta - I wouldn't add nitrates, but that's me. Your main focus should be those expensive shrimp, not the plants. Having zero nitrates is actually best for keeping shrimp. Dump the frogbit .

Jczernia - Nutrifin African Chiclid Conditioner is what I've been telling folks to use. It works! And it's CHEAP compared to shrimp specific brands! I use it for all my tanks.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:37 PM   #37
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Betta - I wouldn't add nitrates, but that's me. Your main focus should be those expensive shrimp, not the plants. Having zero nitrates is actually best for keeping shrimp. Dump the frogbit .
BKK are still in the breeder box on the CBS tank (where there are never any nitrates, thanks to the copious amount of duckweed!). I was hoping the frogbit would suck up the nitrates generated by the Amazonia and the cycling of the new tank, but the tank isn't there yet and the frogbit doesn't seem to be doing well in a tank with nothing but sky high ammonia. So the dose of nitrate now would be sans-shrimp and just to help the frogbit survive until the cycle kicks in and there’s a nitrate boom.

So the whole point would be to help keep make the tank perfect for the shrimp.If they don't end up generating enough nitrate later to keep the frogbit alive, I'll move it or junk it.

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:39 PM   #38
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sorry I couldn't find much info on the shrimp soils, next time I hope they are for sale.

what tank did you pick?
I ended up with the Mr. Aqua, as I could just drive over to Albany and grab it along with the Aquasoil and a few impulse items like the wood. If I end up doing a Blue Bolt tank, maybe they'll get the special shrimp dirt and an ADA tank, LOL!
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Ooh do a blue bolt! do a blue bolt!
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BKK are still in the breeder box on the CBS tank (where there are never any nitrates, thanks to the copious amount of duckweed!). I was hoping the frogbit would suck up the nitrates generated by the Amazonia and the cycling of the new tank, but the tank isn't there yet and the frogbit doesn't seem to be doing well in a tank with nothing but sky high ammonia. So the dose of nitrate now would be sans-shrimp and just to help the frogbit survive until the cycle kicks in and there’s a nitrate boom.

So the whole point would be to help keep make the tank perfect for the shrimp.If they don't end up generating enough nitrate later to keep the frogbit alive, I'll move it or junk it.
In that case, go for it!
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:31 PM   #41
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Ooh do a blue bolt! do a blue bolt!
I really want to. I had no problem with keeping and breeding CBS, so now I'm moving "up" to BKK. But BKK are still a thrid the price of Blue Bolts, so I want to make d@mn sure I can keep and breed those little black beauties before I make the leap to the next rung. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and have a few Blue Bolts pop up in the clutches, LOL!
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:20 PM   #42
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Have ordered just about every Borneo Wild product I didn't already have. Pretty sure this means spreadsheet madness is in my future (I can be anal and a bit OCD once I get going).
Have you try enlive? Can't find any review on it because its new. I'm using it right now but having doubt right now.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:33 PM   #43
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Have you try enlive?
No, the discription of that one didn't inspire me to purchase it. I did set the tank up with BW Bacter Crystal though.

I have the following:

Stout
Vigor
Vital
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Humic (which I used in my main CBS tank, as the Aquasoil is aging and the pH was creeping up; worked great too).
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:17 PM   #44
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Adding nitrate seems to have helped perk up the frogbit. I'm still doing to look into some alternate floating plants though, as I'm not sure the shrimp will generate enough waste to keep the frogbit alive in the long run.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:45 PM   #45
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