Closed System Planted Carboy.

Darks!de · 04-07-2013, 01:23 AM

So I have two 5g carboys for brewing wine/beer that I will be experimenting with as closed system planted tanks possibly with RCS. I have figured out most of the logistics so far, but as I have never played with a closed system I would love to hear from anyone that could chime in with experience with unfiltered nano tanks and/or closed system.

So far I will be using a 5g glass carboy and perhaps a 3" substrate of ecocomplete or fluorite. Small HC type plant in front, larger crypt/sword on the back with several dried reeds inside holding riccia/java. Suspended CFL above. Corked closed.

Was thinking to let it run for a bit and see how the water params work out and how the O2->CO2 cycle works out. Then possibly add RCS, snails.

Comments GO!

Luke

Indychus · 04-07-2013, 01:14 PM

I had one of these when I was a kid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosphere_(aquarium)

It might be a good place to start for info. It just sat in a window and was entirely self sustaining for over 5 years before it started to go south. Mine was about the size of a softball and housed a population of 5-6 shrimp and a snail.

Darks!de · 04-07-2013, 05:07 PM

Yep, seen these. Kind of the same principle except these will be corked close, so I could open it to do minor adjustments/pruning. I've read as much as I can find on the subject, but notably people have done this from what I can find.

Luke

Darks!de · 04-08-2013, 02:35 AM

Closed system/nano peoples, where are you?

AdamC13 · 04-08-2013, 06:01 AM

I havent seen any really aquatic ones I've read about them but not seen them. Have you seen this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...air-water.html

Darks!de · 04-08-2013, 09:25 PM

Hahaha, that's where this idea came from!

Luke

Darks!de · 04-11-2013, 03:19 AM

Any other opinions/advice? Gonna start the first one soon.

Luke

**xmas_one** · 04-11-2013, 03:51 AM

I had a 6.5 gallon one with vals and guppies in it for about 9 years. No cork.

talontsiawd · 04-11-2013, 03:52 AM

We did an experiment like this in grade school. We added plants and some type of fish to a 2 liter bottle. I don't recall how mind did but a friend said his fish lived for 12 or 14 years. He wasn't into the hobby and has never been, he just found it funny we were having issues when his went well with no problem.

I am sure that isn't too helpful but it seems like it can be done by a total amauture so why not give it a shot.

PinkRasbora · 04-11-2013, 04:18 AM

Did a search and found these:

Ecosphere Mason Jars

04-07-2013, 01:23 AM	#1
Darks!de Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 248	Closed System Planted Carboy. So I have two 5g carboys for brewing wine/beer that I will be experimenting with as closed system planted tanks possibly with RCS. I have figured out most of the logistics so far, but as I have never played with a closed system I would love to hear from anyone that could chime in with experience with unfiltered nano tanks and/or closed system. So far I will be using a 5g glass carboy and perhaps a 3" substrate of ecocomplete or fluorite. Small HC type plant in front, larger crypt/sword on the back with several dried reeds inside holding riccia/java. Suspended CFL above. Corked closed. Was thinking to let it run for a bit and see how the water params work out and how the O2->CO2 cycle works out. Then possibly add RCS, snails. Comments GO! Luke

04-07-2013, 05:07 PM	#3
Darks!de Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 248	Closed System Planted Carboy. Yep, seen these. Kind of the same principle except these will be corked close, so I could open it to do minor adjustments/pruning. I've read as much as I can find on the subject, but notably people have done this from what I can find. Luke

04-08-2013, 02:35 AM	#4
Darks!de Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 248	Closed System Planted Carboy. Closed system/nano peoples, where are you?

04-08-2013, 09:25 PM	#6
Darks!de Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 248	Closed System Planted Carboy. Hahaha, that's where this idea came from! Luke

04-11-2013, 03:19 AM	#7
Darks!de Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 248	Closed System Planted Carboy. Any other opinions/advice? Gonna start the first one soon. Luke

04-07-2013, 01:14 PM	#2
Indychus Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 285	I had one of these when I was a kid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosphere_(aquarium) It might be a good place to start for info. It just sat in a window and was entirely self sustaining for over 5 years before it started to go south. Mine was about the size of a softball and housed a population of 5-6 shrimp and a snail.

04-08-2013, 06:01 AM	#5
AdamC13 Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 65	I havent seen any really aquatic ones I've read about them but not seen them. Have you seen this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...air-water.html

04-11-2013, 03:51 AM	#8
xmas_one Custom User Title (View User Tanks) PTrader: (7/100%) Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,060	I had a 6.5 gallon one with vals and guppies in it for about 9 years. No cork.

04-11-2013, 03:52 AM	#9
talontsiawd Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,406	We did an experiment like this in grade school. We added plants and some type of fish to a 2 liter bottle. I don't recall how mind did but a friend said his fish lived for 12 or 14 years. He wasn't into the hobby and has never been, he just found it funny we were having issues when his went well with no problem. I am sure that isn't too helpful but it seems like it can be done by a total amauture so why not give it a shot. __________________ -Matt Eheim Pimp Club # 382 The Fraternity of Dirt #53 13 Stones Journal 6 Gallon Betta Tank

04-11-2013, 04:18 AM	#10
PinkRasbora Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Newport, MI Posts: 480	Did a search and found these: Ecosphere Mason Jars __________________ ~Pink's Tank:~ 14 Gallon Tall Aquarium Picture link Soon

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