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Old 11-14-2012, 01:24 AM   #1
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Angelfish question


Hi there ,

Me and my sister just added one angel into out tank last Tuesday and it seemed fine, not shy and tried to eat. Since Saturday she (I don't really know if it's male or female) is hiding behind the filter and doesn't come out to eat. Is it because she's adjusting to out tank?

We also have an internal filter which produces some current (even on minimum setting) and it seems like the fish doesn't like it at all. I read angels don't mind little current. Is it ok to leave the filter, or we should get another filter (HOB?)

The tank is 20g, somewhat planted, no CO2. It has happy h.rasboras (5) and white clouds (7). The angel is about quarter size.

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:32 AM   #2
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it could e the current. But more then likely it's lonely. When angels are young they're schooling fish. It's not till later in life that they form pars and ecome aggressive towards each other. I would try getting another angel and see if the little one perks up with some company.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:34 AM   #3
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Aww, that's not good, out tank is too small for two angels. And we feel really bad returning the fish...
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:41 AM   #4
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you could easily do 2 angels in a 20. I have 4 in a 50.

The fish is probably just adjusting to surroundings, but they do like a bit of cover. The more you feed, the more it will respond
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:42 AM   #5
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lol i have 14 in a 46
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:51 AM   #6
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lol i have 14 in a 46
Yeah, but for how much longer...

I have 250 in a 1 gallon jar... yes, they are freshly born fry.

I keep pairs in a 20H. Perfect breeder tanks.

Its possible the Angel feels intimidated by the H Rasboras. And probably also lonely.
Get 5 more Q-sized angels, let them grow out and pair off and sell the other 4. Save up for a 40B or 55g tank for when they get bigger.
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yeah I have a breeder pair in a 20 long and they love it. Just had a clutch of eggs hatch three days ago as a matter of fact. Fish will grow to the size of their enclosure (to a certain extent, their are exceptions). Two angels will be fine in your tank.
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you could easily do 2 angels in a 20. I have 4 in a 50.
Eh, no. Quite a few 20 gallons are too low for a fully grown angel.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:07 PM   #9
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What are water parameter's Ammonia,nitrites,nitrates?
How long has tank been running with fish ?
Twenty gallon in my view is too small for Adult Angelfish, but could house juvenile for a few month's.
Healthy cichlid's, (Angelfish are cichlid's) should grow at a rate of one inch per month or thereabout's.
Do not accept myth that fishes only grow as large as the tank.
Nearly all fishes,,, kept in too small of enviornment's, will become stressed, stunted,sickly, over time.Some faster than other's.
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Thanks for everyone!
I found this poor fish in the morning... dead. I am so upset right now. That's it, tank will not have any more new fish.
The tank has been running since January, and we had the fish since March. Don't have the test kit to tell parameters, but the LFS say water is good.
I think it's the current, she just couldn't fight it.
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Thanks for everyone!
I found this poor fish in the morning... dead. I am so upset right now. That's it, tank will not have any more new fish.
The tank has been running since January, and we had the fish since March. Don't have the test kit to tell parameters, but the LFS say water is good.
I think it's the current, she just couldn't fight it.
When you get new fish, always QT them. If there is something wrong with the fish, you can watch them closely and medicate if necessary.

Lots of fish are bred in very poor circumstances, live in higher concentration salt water (to reduce chance on infections and parasites). Get shipped to a middle man who only thinks about the money and then shipped to your LFS. Most fish had a terrible life before they end up in your aquarium.

I always recommend to buy from a local hobby breeder. Success rate is almost 100% with those fish.

If you want and can wait till March/ April (weather conditions) I can ship you some Philippine Blue Angels for the cost of shipping.
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nalu86, this is so sweet of you =) I'll keep it in mind...I might set up a new tank in near future (just for myself), but i don't know if it will be ready for the fish by March/April....Thanks again so much.
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Eh, no. Quite a few 20 gallons are too low for a fully grown angel.
hate to say it... but this is your opinion and not fact. There are plenty of people that breed them and keep them for years in 20s
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hate to say it... but this is your opinion and not fact. There are plenty of people that breed them and keep them for years in 20s
In a way you're right, but usually this is only for breeding them. Most breeders that I know only put them in a 20G for a week or 2 to raise fry then back to a large tank to be more stable.
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In a way you're right, but usually this is only for breeding them. Most breeders that I know only put them in a 20G for a week or 2 to raise fry then back to a large tank to be more stable.
Breeders keep Angels and Discus in 20H tanks for their whole life without issues. Yes they are BB Tanks and don't have any decoration, but Angels and Discus are slow moving fish and don't really need more than the space of a 20H tank. Perfect little territory for them.


I had mine in a 125 gallon tank, now they are in a 20H, they feel a lot more secure and breed like crazy (about every 10 - 15 days), I can't keep up with the fry.
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