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Old 10-21-2012, 12:37 AM   #1
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Oh No 2 Dead Today! Hydra Perhaps?


My params:

Ammonia 0
PH 7.2
Gh 30
Kh 40
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0

I think it is the hydra. Bc I "never got around to" FenBenning the Spec V.

It's me. I am not as conscientious as I would like to be.

Happily I saw preggers, so she's okay for today.

The 2 dead ones were juvies.

One just fell out of the floater canopy, paralyzed about an hour ago. I vacuumed him up with the turkey baster, and he is lying in the QT.

His legs are moving in tiny spastic motions, but he hasn't moved in any other way.

*working through my feelings of self-anger. I thought about FenBenning weeks ago, and actually did the 2.5 -- WTF?*
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Ok, the legs moving in spastic motions are what I'm witnessing with bacterial infections. Any cloudiness at all to the bodies?
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Ok, the legs moving in spastic motions are what I'm witnessing with bacterial infections. Any cloudiness at all to the bodies?
Not that I can tell on this one.

Should I Maracyn?
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Ok, the legs moving in spastic motions are what I'm witnessing with bacterial infections. Any cloudiness at all to the bodies?
There is a lot of IAL In the tank which has certain properties, should I add Thera-p by Microbe Lift? And I could feed Thera A by New Life Spectrum --garlic and ginseng. But both of those are for fish not shrimp.
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I would go with Melafix or Paraguard with neos if you suspect anything. Sometimes shrimp just die for seemingly no reason. Are any of their antennae shorter than the other?
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I preach dosing Melafix on every water change just to help prevent bacterial infections. As the make up of melafix and pimafix is tea leave extract. So it does not kill of good bacteria, and will help keep bad bacteria in check. As ravensgate said, that has been my past signs of bacterial infection
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I preach dosing Melafix on every water change just to help prevent bacterial infections. As the make up of melafix and pimafix is tea leave extract. So it does not kill of good bacteria, and will help keep bad bacteria in check. As ravensgate said, that has been my past signs of bacterial infection
Man, I had catfish get killed when I dosed some of that stuff. Watch out when you dose, as invertebrates and scaleless fish can be very sensitive.
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If it is in there already I would do Melafix and marycin 2. Paragaurd has never worked for me. It is has no effect after 24 hours, so you have to dose daily at 16-18 hours after each dose to keep the medication in the tank enough to help. Marycin 2 has saved my butt 2 times now. After I lost about 60+ OEBT I started dosing marycin 2 and melafix and I solved my crazy bacterial infection. Can you inagine losing 40 shrimp you get from nick @ 12 a pop and there babies. Lucky I was left with about 25 good ones and they have been on a breeding tear ever since.
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I preach dosing Melafix on every water change just to help prevent bacterial infections. As the make up of melafix and pimafix is tea leave extract. So it does not kill of good bacteria, and will help keep bad bacteria in check. As ravensgate said, that has been my past signs of bacterial infection
I have some Melafix around here somewhere. What kind of dosage do you use?

I used a half dose on my crowntail betta girl for just one day for a torn Tail and a touch of central fin rot.
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Your catfish did not die from that. It died from something else, melafix is invert safe, hell when I was dosing I was double dosing with no ill affects
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I dose as bottle states. I do not half dose it or anything, full strength.
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On a side note get rid of the hydra they will kill shrimp as well, if or should I say when your shrimps hatch the hydra will have a feast killing the little ones
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If it is in there already I would do Melafix and marycin 2. Paragaurd has never worked for me. It is has no effect after 24 hours, so you have to dose daily at 16-18 hours after each dose to keep the medication in the tank enough to help. Marycin 2 has saved my butt 2 times now. After I lost about 60+ OEBT I started dosing marycin 2 and melafix and I solved my crazy bacterial infection. Can you inagine losing 40 shrimp you get from nick @ 12 a pop and there babies. Lucky I was left with about 25 good ones and they have been on a breeding tear ever since.
It's BettaFix, no MelaFix. Less concentrated.

I tend to err on the side of caution. less than half strength.

Recommended is 18 drops per quart, 36 drops per half g, 72 drops (2.5 ml) per g. So for 5 = 360 drops/2 = 180 drops for half strength.

I did Total 90 drops, so 1/4 strength.

Too little?

How sensitive are shrimp vs fish?

So 60% of volume, at
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On a side note get rid of the hydra they will kill shrimp as well, if or should I say when your shrimps hatch the hydra will have a feast killing the little ones
I added FenBen today, too. Geez it's carpet bombing in here!

*sigh*

Poor shrimpies. I reckon their immune systems are adapting to my high pH.
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You're just creating resistant bacteria with less than full doses.
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