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Old 08-04-2014, 01:12 AM   #1
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Show me your bowls, vases > 1 year old


I will have a 2.5 gallon bowl to play with soon. Waldo the betta bit up and blew out his gorgeous tail. I've been treating him with salt and then just housing him in this bowl so that the fluval spec filter can't tear him up more (the lazy bastard loves to stick himself to the filter) He will be moving to a new tank in a couple of weeks. I may plant the bowl after I'm done with him.

I wonder. Do these low tech bowls have longevity?

Please show off your low tech planted bowls (or vases, jars, whatever) that are over a year old. Tell me how old they are. Tell me what the challenges are.
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Old 08-05-2014, 12:49 AM   #2
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Hmmmmmm......should I suspect nobody keeps these things going after a year? If that is the case let me know why. Did you get bored, did everything explode in a methane gas fireball, did the algae choke out everything and then escape to make havoc all over your house?
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:06 AM   #3
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ill post up

my bowl holds five gallons and is 13 yrs old about

my vases are 1 gal and 8 yrs old but thats reef not fw, here are the vids.

I do enjoy the science of long term ecosystems. all the plants in this bowl are stem plants pretty much so no wow other than the 10 feet of height coming off the top of the tank its not like lush glosso carpeting held for a decade or anything but what I do have is the lowest maintenance long term fw system I think one could have. its a bog system that doesnt use filtration, pumps, or heater it just runs room temp for over a decade with a big metal halide light hanging above it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R237MB2jvb8

on my youtube page is vids of the 8 year old reef vase

hope that gets your thread going!
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:32 AM   #4
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Thank you so much for posting. That bog bowl is amazing!

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my vases are 1 gal and 8 yrs old but thats reef not fw, here are the vids.


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Did I read this right? You have salt water reef vases? How does that work? I know it is off topic, but I would love to see your salt water vase!
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:15 AM   #5
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I had a 2.5 tall vase going for about 2-3 years, but I didn't really bother getting pics. Vals, swords, and crypts work for me, with gravel and root tabs. Had it dirted for awhile, but the dirt didn't work with the shape of the vase, and ended up with gas pockets
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I had a 2.5 tall vase going for about 2-3 years, but I didn't really bother getting pics. Vals, swords, and crypts work for me, with gravel and root tabs. Had it dirted for awhile, but the dirt didn't work with the shape of the vase, and ended up with gas pockets
That must have been pretty. Did the taller plants grow out of the vase? If so did the tips get dried out?
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:35 AM   #7
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That must have been pretty. Did the taller plants grow out of the vase? If so did the tips get dried out?
The vals mostly just ended up arching over the top of the water, or sticking the tips of their leaves out so they'd get dried up. The crypts were probably the best for the vase, stayed about the right size, didn't get too big, and let me get away with ignoring the vase, lol
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This one is exactly a year old http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh....php?p=3721737

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14 months ago, I set up this 1.75g vase with a single pot of c. wendtii as my first planted tank. A year+ later and it looks identical to the day it was first set up. I'm sure the plants have multiplied but it has pretty much stayed the same.(reason why I never started a tank journal) I messed with Vals, Hornwort and Anacharis a few times but I eventually got rid of everything but the crypts and floaters. Not a fan of Jungle bowls so I'm ok with the minimal growth of the crypts.

Miracle Grow potting mix, large gravel, 1 pot of c. wendtii and a 9w cfl light running 8hrs a day.


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ill post up

my bowl holds five gallons and is 13 yrs old about

my vases are 1 gal and 8 yrs old but thats reef not fw, here are the vids.

I do enjoy the science of long term ecosystems. all the plants in this bowl are stem plants pretty much so no wow other than the 10 feet of height coming off the top of the tank its not like lush glosso carpeting held for a decade or anything but what I do have is the lowest maintenance long term fw system I think one could have. its a bog system that doesnt use filtration, pumps, or heater it just runs room temp for over a decade with a big metal halide light hanging above it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R237MB2jvb8

on my youtube page is vids of the 8 year old reef vase

hope that gets your thread going!
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Could you list your plants? It looks great. Also I have a tall green one growing in a jar, like one in your vid. Still dont know what it is haha.
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:33 AM   #11
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Gratz on it being a year old now give us an update photo of it!!!
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:47 AM   #12
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I believe it is bamboo ! They can live a long time mine are ten feet tall

They were those little decorative ones you get in a floral vase but in 2002

Bog life is good for many plants the substrate is rooted white

Plants are
some kind of fern is coming out the top
Bamboo
Pothos variants not sure
Marsilea quad
Bunches of crypt wendt
Swords
Java moss
Driftwood wall christmas moss
Cholla wood
Bolbitis
Java fern
Much of the wendtii are emersed bog grown
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That's great! Sadly, we got no one year update.... hahahaha! I'm sure it's looking awesome though!
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:23 PM   #14
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Sadly, we got no one year update....
Yeah OVT, last updated pictures are 3 months shy of a year. Lets see an update.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:22 PM   #15
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There is a neat point to bring up for this thread regarding myths about K lighting and plant growth, I see it said on here time and time again that reef spectrum wont grow plants, not the case. or that reef spectrum lighting selects for algae growth in the planted tank, its the other way around

I use 50 50 pc reef bulbs on my picos marine and planted, and this mess of plants above was all grown for 10+ yrs under 20K near blue lighting, this 10K shot below is about 8 mos into my replacement 10K bulb, Imiss the 20K simply due to a preference of that look in the house blasting everything and giving all visitors unexplained migraines.

the point is, you see lots of "rules" stated and then you see some getting broken, intensity makes up a lot for spectral idealism

even though 20k may not be in the right peaks the plant based par charts show to be ideal, it will still grow a hundred pounds of any submersed/emersed plant simply because metal halide is bad. period. sure it runs hot, but theres a reason it was the staple of production for a good three ish decades in the industry

so when people say you cant use reef bulbs on plants, remember thats not a firm rule at all. blast the intensity, and the usable part of whatever spectrum you are emitting all of the sudden becomes really useful

I dont think you can drive all actinic setups like this and get fw plant growth, but 20K still has enough usable par for plants that the excessive blue is no limiter at all/. 20K is an undeniable reef specific bulb, and here it is growing 16 ish species of our common submersed and emersed plants for over a decade on one tank

as we speak a carpet is slowly filling in a .5 tank using cheap 13w 50 50 reef lighting, the 6500 stuff is too yellow for my prefs
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