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Old 10-02-2012, 04:55 AM   #1
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breeding crs in a 2.5? possible?


ive got 3 crs in my 2.5 gallon tank. will it be possible?
i am using a sponge filter, ada soil, i have put xmass moss in it too. kept outside of my house to keep water temp cool. any tips ? planning on getting more crs but just seein how they do in my conditions right now my ph is 7.2
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:11 PM   #2
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Your ph is a bit over the preferred hardness, CRS like waters at around ph 6.5. If your gonna breed your going to want a bigger tank. Breeder's I've read about advise getting a tank that holds at least 10 or 20 gallons for breeding.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:30 PM   #3
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Note that pH and hardness are not the same thing. While related (hard water typically has a higher pH than softer water), they're definitely not the same.

7.2 is rather high for Crystals. Did you measure with test strips or liquid?

Hardness is generally way more important than pH. What's your KH and GH?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:15 PM   #4
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I've got some CRS A grades living in my RCS/PFR tank at 7.2 They are doing great but still too young to breed so I can 't comment if they will actually BREED at that pH (I've heard the lower grades aren't as sensitive/picky as the higher grades).
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My A/ low S grade crs breed at 7.2pH


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When I had them in my 55. ph was around 6.8-7.2 with co2 and they bread for me.

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Whats baby survival though at a higher pH? Breeding and getting 4 babies that live as opposed to breeding and getting 20 babies that live are different.

And with ADA, why is your pH so high?
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I counted 12 from the last hatchlings. Small clutch too


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Whats baby survival though at a higher pH? Breeding and getting 4 babies that live as opposed to breeding and getting 20 babies that live are different.

And with ADA, why is your pH so high?
i recently established this tank a day ago. its only temp until my planted tank is set to go but i was just wondering if they will breed in my 2.5
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I bred and raised 20+ SSSS black crown Mosura's in a 2.5 gallon tank.

I started out with some Fluval shrimp soil, piece of curly skinny driftwood, and a Marina I25 filter and sponge filter. My water is 7.6 out of the tap. I put in this tank a berried SSSS Black Mosura, a Red SSSS Mosura and a Snow white male.

The berried females hatched their babies no problem, I got 20+ Crown Black Mosura's that I kept in this tank with the momma's until they were juvies (then I sold the whole bunch at one time) I also got several red Mosura's/Hinos from the 2nd female and then when both got berried again to the Snow white, I put all of them back into a 9 gallon tank where they are still today breeding babies.

My theory is this, IF the CRS/CBS is born in higher PH they adapt to that
water parameter and can therefore live and breed in the higher PH. I still have babies in this 9g tank and my tap water is 7.6 and there's NO RO or anything else in this tank except a piece of dragon lace rock and a couple of plants. I don't vaccum nor change the water, only do top ups.
It works for me.
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Note that pH and hardness are not the same thing. While related (hard water typically has a higher pH than softer water), they're definitely not the same.

7.2 is rather high for Crystals. Did you measure with test strips or liquid?

Hardness is generally way more important than pH. What's your KH and GH?
i only have the ph liquid test kit. not too sure about my kh and gh..
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I've bred and raised hundreds of sss crs and cbs in my 2.5g. You just have to check and keep your water paramaters correct and not over feed.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:42 AM   #13
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I bred and raised 20+ SSSS black crown Mosura's in a 2.5 gallon tank.

I started out with some Fluval shrimp soil, piece of curly skinny driftwood, and a Marina I25 filter and sponge filter. My water is 7.6 out of the tap. I put in this tank a berried SSSS Black Mosura, a Red SSSS Mosura and a Snow white male.

The berried females hatched their babies no problem, I got 20+ Crown Black Mosura's that I kept in this tank with the momma's until they were juvies (then I sold the whole bunch at one time) I also got several red Mosura's/Hinos from the 2nd female and then when both got berried again to the Snow white, I put all of them back into a 9 gallon tank where they are still today breeding babies.

My theory is this, IF the CRS/CBS is born in higher PH they adapt to that
water parameter and can therefore live and breed in the higher PH. I still have babies in this 9g tank and my tap water is 7.6 and there's NO RO or anything else in this tank except a piece of dragon lace rock and a couple of plants. I don't vaccum nor change the water, only do top ups.
It works for me.
thats cool, im hoping on doing the same (:
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I've bred and raised hundreds of sss crs and cbs in my 2.5g. You just have to check and keep your water paramaters correct and not over feed.
ive been told by many that they wont breed in a 2.5g
but i guess ill try (:
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:32 AM   #15
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I made a test for couple of month and Ive been managed to breed them in a small tank like that but the baby rate was very low .
the biggest issue is to keep the stability in this kind of tanks if you can do it they will probably breed a little .
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