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Old 11-03-2012, 04:48 AM   #1
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Fish for 70F Water?


I have a five gallon tank for Madagascar Lace that is cycling in my greenhouse. It is a greenhouse for highland tropical pitcher plants, Nepenthes. 50-60F at night, 70-85F during the day ideally. The tank has a lid and a heater. It stays about 70F during the day and night during winter, and probably will be 70F at night and 85F during the day during summer. The tank gets natural sunlight, but not too much during the winter and it is under 50% shade cloth during the summer. I have a filter on it that is maybe 50-75gph.

What kind of fish can I put in there other than guppies, mosquito fish or anything that most people wouldn't want? I already have guppies and I don't want cold water fish. Maybe a small schooling fish like neon tetras, would that work? How many could I put in a five gallon and keep the waste down? I don't want the tank to get messy because algae will grow easily in a tank outside. If the water or sand gets messy, then the bulbs of my Madagascar Lace will rot like they did in my 29g inside that got messy.

What fish would you recommend?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:10 AM   #2
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I would look into the semi tropical or temperate water fish, rather than tropical, if the temperature will get into the lower 60s. There are a few tropical fish that will tolerate temperatures into the upper 60s, but not much lower.
The high end in the summer is also a worry. If a fish can handle the upper 60s it is rare that it will also tolerate the 80s.

Here are a few cold water ideas:
Platy (a single male or maybe 2, but this is not good. They are social fish)
Rosy Barb (a single fish, but, like Platies, these are social, and a larger tank and more fish is better) Other Barbs that you might see listed as cool water fish, similar comment. Not enough room in a 5 gallon, and some Barbs nip plants. You sure do not want that with a Lace Plant!
Darters and Gobies- look into native fish, and check the laws about catching them. In some areas non-game fish are all counted as 'bait' and you can catch and keep them. In other areas this is not legal. Most of these need more water movement, too. High oxygen water.
Hillstream Loaches are NOT a good idea, though you may see they are suggested for cool water. They really need more water movement for higher oxygen.
OK, here is one for you to research:
Florida Flag Fish. A single, perhaps male (more color).
http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Jord...-floridae.html
MAYBE: other Killiefish??? I am not really into these, so you will have to do your own research.
There are quite a few Cories that will be fine into the lowest 70s, and a few as low as the mid 60s. Research at Planet Catfish. They are social, so the only way to have a good group in that small a tank is to go with the smallest species. There are several, but I do not think they are tolerant of the colder water. There is a really good search engine over there, but of course it just covers cats.

Sorry, it looks like it is coming down to Mosquito Fish. That is just too great a temperature range for most fish.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:23 PM   #3
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Could you add a fan to the tank to help keep the temperature down in the summer?

If you do that and use a heater when necessary, that would greatly open up your options.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:52 PM   #4
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having a 5 gallon tank is very hard to stock. i would suggest a betta in that size tank. using a fan and heater when needed. most tetras need schools and lots of swimming room as they are active. mollies as well. have you thought about endlers? i know....very similar to guppies. maybe you can turn your 5 gallon into a freshwater shrimp/crab/ or crawfish tank?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:24 PM   #5
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White Cloud Mountain minnows, rosy red feeder minnows, maybe otocinculus to clean up algae?
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Apistogramma borellii. Awesome little cichlid. Super beautiful, peaceful (for a cichlid), able to stand the cooler temperature, and easy to breed.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:04 PM   #7
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Dont know if anyone has,said it but how about killifish they have tons of colors
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:31 PM   #8
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have you thought about endlers?
Good idea, I like those... But I probably won't because they're so similar to mah gupgups.

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Apistogramma borellii. Awesome little cichlid. Super beautiful, peaceful (for a cichlid), able to stand the cooler temperature, and easy to breed.
I'd love to, but they look hard to find and expensive. I think $10 a fish is a good limit.

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Dont know if anyone has,said it but how about killifish they have tons of colors
Yes! Yes yes yes! I completely forgot about those. I'll go around to a few local shops within the next few months (maybe around Christmas) and buy some of those. How many do you think I could have in the tank if they are small ones? Can I get a m/f pair?
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:39 PM   #9
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I just got a batch of American Flag fish and I am quite happy with them!
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:11 PM   #10
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Pics!
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:40 PM   #11
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Requesting pics of your nepenthes plz
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:37 PM   #12
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They're about an inch long!
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:31 PM   #13
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Everyone forgets paradise fish. Heteranda(?) formosa are also cool little live bearers that breed slowly and kind look like submarines.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:18 AM   #14
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Requesting pics of your nepenthes plz
Check out my topic here, filled with pics, updated often... My Highland Greenhouse

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Pics!
Here are the three madagascar lace in the tank... Producing their first leaves!



This one is REALLY cool... IT IS FREAKING PURPLE!



And here's the green ones... Meh.



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AWWW! SO CUTE!

I think I might get like a betta or a sailfin molly, something pretty and flashy.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:53 AM   #15
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Check out my topic here, filled with pics, updated often... My Highland Greenhouse
Wow! I am so jelly! Very nice looking nepenthes. I wish I had a greenhouse. I think I'll just stick to sarracenia and drosera though.
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