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Old 09-21-2012, 02:13 AM   #1
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Who's keeping shrimp in a high tech tank?


What's your secret? I really want to add nice shrimp - is it impossible with a high tech tank? I drip acclimate, lower and gradually raise the CO2 level over several days, and run an airstone for eight hours after the lights go off. Amanos and ghost shrimp still don't last long.

The worst part is that I've been advised to INCREASE my CO2 level to correct a deficiency causing pinholes and BBA. I lost a school of tetras at a level only slightly higher, so I'm cutting my photoperiod as an experiment instead.

I don't expect them to breed well but is there a way to have a healthy, well-lit tank with PFRs and maybe green lace or tigers?
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:00 AM   #2
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I have. Didn't seem to be much issue. I gassed them (RCS) once when I was getting used to the setup. After, it was business as usual.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:07 AM   #3
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I don't know if you would consider this high tech:




40-50 PAR at substrate level, Dosing 1/6 pps pro and co2 24/7.

CRS & CBS SS+ , OEBTs and blue velvets.



The secret? Just a simple method:

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=183530

In the first post there is also a couple of other examples of other hobbyists.

Like youjettisonme with his "PRL in the mist" tank:



As far as I know he is using pressurized co2 24/7 and Ada ferts.

Overall Seems like shrimp breed a bit more without pressurized co2
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:09 AM   #4
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My mini-m is high tech. EI and co2 at about 2.5 bps. I'm definitely noticing that my females have not been berried in a few months. But they seem happy otherwise.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:51 PM   #5
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Wow that is a lot of co2. I have hc and dhg and I use about 1 bubble per 8 seconds and my hc pearls all day. My shrimp don't even bat an eye at this co2 level.
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I'm keeping Amanos in a 30 gal at around 2bps. Doesn't seem to be a problem. I slowly acclimated them to the CO2 levels over the course of a week, starting with CO2 off, then slowly increasing the bubble rate.
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Since some are succeeding with shrimp in EI, CO2 tanks, maybe someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Ghost shrimp are tough little guys, aren't they?
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:30 PM   #8
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Huh. I have amanos in my high tech 30g. EI, co2 upwards of 35ppm.. Wonder if your dosing is off for ferts? When I was dosing my shrimp tank based on ei, I found that the shrimp would never berry, and I lost about two a month. I stopped dosing and switched plants to moss and other low need plants, and have had berried shrimp ever since!

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Old 09-21-2012, 04:41 PM   #9
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If you are killing ghost and amano shrimp something is terribly wrong. I seriously doubt its c02 especially since you run an airstone. I have read posts of people saying they have kept amanos unknowingly at extremely high co2 levels only to find out after adding fish and they start gasping.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:08 PM   #10
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I keep Amano's in 18 gallon hi-tech along with live bearers n snails.
I have berried amano's but the larvae do no survive.
I fertillize thrice a week micro n macro, CO2 two bubbles per second - CO2 (solenoid regulator) is turned off along with the aquarium lights, water changes RO 50% once a week add minerals check TDS before add new water (no sudden changes in water parameters). My temp.is constant 24 degrees - chiller coz its summer here 32-34 degrees in shade. BTW the new water added is also the same temp.as the tank no sudden temp.changes. I test the water once in 2 weeks to check levels of Nitrate, PH,GH,KH, Phosphate and have a reliable TDS meter. Clean external filter once in 2 months.
I use two diff.thermometers just in case 1.Regular n simple glass thermometers 2. Digital (external) thermometer to check temparture in past I had submersible thermometer and it went haywire within a month.

In short try as much as possible to keep water parameters stable, avoid making sudden changes, due to fertilizers some have small amounts of copper I have Cuprisorb in my external filter which I change every 3 months.
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RO water?
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RO water?
RO - Reverse Osmosis
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Quote:
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RO - Reverse Osmosis
I know, I'm just lazy to write:

Why don't you try RO water?
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:28 PM   #14
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Personal experience never add shrimps and start adding CO2 or reduce Co2 coz u will cause a PH swing which will surely kill the shrimps. Keep the tank stable after u add shrimps do not make any changes. My tank CO2 goes off at night buy I have a PH controller also my tank is well aerated, I'm using a stronger external filter which aerates the tank water at night.
Many hobbyists claim that RCS, yellow, rilis, CRS, Tigers, etc do not reproduce as often as they do in non CO2 tanks.
It is possible to add CO2 during cycling period but other things like light w/g, water changes, fertilizers should be taken into consideration. After tank is cycled slowly reduce the CO2, Lights w/g and fertilizing only when the tank is stable add live stock.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:16 PM   #15
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i keep my RCS in a pretty high CO2 environment and they do fine.
i am going to try keeping cards in a high tech in a little bit once i set the tank up.
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