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Old 07-11-2005, 02:19 AM   #1
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phelsuma cepediana (blue-tailed day gecko)/frogs


I am creating a blue-tailed day gecko viviarium, and was wondering what other types of lizards/frogs/ or turtles would go in this 35g hex tank. The Blue-tailed day gecko require 80% humidity and temps between 75f-85f so am looking for plants and critters that also like high humidityand heat.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:26 AM   #2
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i wouldnt risk any turtles. almost all will take a bite given the chance.

ever try Poison Dart Frogs? If you go with the larger ones (i.e. Azureus, Tinctorious', Auratus, Leucomelas, and several others) then they get along great with Day Geckos.

edit>> do have to note though that temps over 82 can be harsh. if you can maintain between 75 and 82 then you are fine, especially with high humidity.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:39 AM   #3
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I have tons of emerse plants that would be perfect for your vivairium. I would not put turtles in as they eat tender plants. I would only put in the gecko(s) and plants. Give them their own home... they deserve it!
A 35 hex is not as big as you might think.Put the tank on the yard if you need to,and picture in your head HOW MANY animals have you seen living in that small of a area 24/7 in the wild? Without conflict that is.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:51 PM   #4
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Won't the gecko be killed by the poison dart frog's poison.
I am just wondering...
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no. they do not have toxicity in captivity.

Food chain in the wild has Ants eating poisonous plants, and the frogs eating the ants, so the toxin is a pass-through poison. No ants = no poison.

so, they are not poisonous to people anymore either.
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:35 AM   #6
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If you have an article or 2 that proves this then im gonna think about getting myself some posion arrow frogs. Ive always wanted one
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i have 9, plus many babies, and have touched them on several occasions I'm typing right now, so --- not dead

Go to www.dendroboard.com for a Poison Dart Frog forum.

If you would like to get into them, I have some D. Ventrimaculatus' for sale. They are a blue-legged, yellow and black striped/blotched back, blue bellied, thumbnail (meaning very small) species. Very pretty.
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Awsome forum. Im gonna study up a bit on these beauties before i start doing anything and buying stuff.
PS: sorry for hitchiking
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Thank you for the info. It is so nice that I learned new thing about poison dart frog today.

But I thought they would have developed this poison themselves for their own defence. What if other animal also eat those ants, will that animals develope such a poison also? Just a hypothesis.
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their body enhances (greatly) the poison to be more toxic than it was when it entered their system. most other animals do not have that ability. So "in a sense" they are developing the poison, just not introducing it.

some do it better than others too, which is why different species can eat the same ants, yet be more toxic to touch.

very few will be able to harm people anyway, even in the wild. it is ones like the Terribilis and Bicolor that can potentionally kill you. Most of the Dendrobates (most common genus in the hobby) will merely give you a tingly feeling. Your main risk comes from ingestion. So, just dont lick them or eat them and no harm will be done
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Unhappy poision dart frogs

so where might a person buy some of these poison dart frogs. I live in a small town and don't have many choices at the local pet shops.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:03 PM   #12
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http://www.blackjungle.com/blackjungle/AA.html
Maybe this site will help. I really wish they will ship to Canada too. Sometime I think living in the states give me more freedom.
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very nice site. I love the info it provides. hmmm makes me wonder if there is anyone that does sell these beauties in canada.
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there are several on www.dendroboard.com from Canada. Do a search there for "Canada" and see what pops up.

Several UK people as well.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foghaven911
so where might a person buy some of these poison dart frogs. I live in a small town and don't have many choices at the local pet shops.
you are pretty much stuck with having them shipped most of the time. dart frogs stress easy, especially when people walk by them all day, so pet shops will almost always have poor quality darts. if you can buy from a breeder and afford the expensive shipping (usually $50-$60), then that is the way to go.

Search around on the Sponsors at www.dendroboard.com. Vivarium Concepts is local to me and has many good frogs. Saurian Enterprise is also a good one.
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