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Old 09-12-2012, 02:29 AM   #1
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Josh's Regulator Build Thread


Well, Seeing as I've got a box full of regulators, couple bags full of parts, a camera and the internet handy, I figured I should start a thread of my progress building these things. Putting together a regulator for planted tank use has kinda become a bobby within a hobby for me. I think I have just as much fun building one of these things a I do setting up a new tank and filling it. Silly, right? lol

Anyway... I will update this thread as stuff comes in and I take photos of the processes. It might be a good learning experience for some of you too as I may do some things you haven't seen yet or aren't aware of.

Today's update:



A bunch of stuff that needs other stuff to show up in the mail and by fedex and from ups.

This thread will sorta be a continuation of the how to build a regulator thread which has been buried in the sticky at the top of this forum.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=148509

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Old 09-12-2012, 02:49 AM   #2
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Thanks for doing this. I've learned a lot from reading your previous threads.
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Thanks for doing this. I've learned a lot from reading your previous threads.
Cool, glad I could help. That's why we're here, right? To learn and help others.

That and I guess to gock at people's tanks that are nicer than our own... hahaha
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:28 PM   #4
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Got bored this morning... Put a couple pieces of the all stainless Swagelok regulator I've been piecing together, together.

I ran into a little snag I thought I'd share as it's a pretty common problem with an easy solution.

Taped the parts I was going to assemble:



The cga-320 nut went in just fine. (they always go in easy because you don't need it pointing in any specific direction.) When I tightened down the high pressure gauge, I couldn't get it tight and straight. Either I was going to have to really wrench down on it (which is not something you to do with stainless steel as you could break a thread and have to throw the whole thing away) or take it back off, clean off all the tape scraps and re-tape it, using more tape. (sometimes less if you've already got more than 4 turns on the fitting)

Before:



After:



That's it for now. I'm waiting on some fittings from Swagelok to get shipped. It's a funny thing about Swagelok - they take FOREVER sometimes to get you parts if they have to make them just for you.

A random note about gauges.

I love these WIKA 232.54 series stainless gauges. The quality/appearance rivals that of Swagelok. Not quite as nice though. They can be had for a lot less money anyway. If you find yourself on ebay looking for gauges for whatever reason, pay real close attention to the model numbers and not just the appearance. A slight 'one number' off difference like 232.54 and 232.53 doesn't just mean they are slightly different. They will be way off. Even if you find a set with the same matching model numbers they could be years apart from when they were produced. So you've still a got a little bit of 'chancing it' happening. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:52 PM   #5
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I had about an hour this afternoon to mess around with a couple regs. Finished this one up:



Pretty standard stuff. Victor VTS-250B, Burkert 6011 solenoid, Ideal 52-1-12. Nice and compact for 2-stage. A true workhorse.

I love it boxes from Swagelok show up at my door



(No idea why I posted that pic O.o)

Then I did some test fitting with this one:



This one's a Victor HPT-500. (re-branded by BOC) All chrome and stainless. Swagelok pipe fittings, Swagelok S series metering valve w/verier handle and Clippard manifold mount mouse solenoid.

Shiny...

I'll take some pics when I put it together.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:10 AM   #6
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Looking great!

Do all the regulators you build have pressure relief valves on the high side? The two stage regulator I have here is a six port (3 hi 3 lo). It has a relief on one of the low side ports, but none on the high side ports. I don't know if I should find one for the high side or just plug that port.
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What regulator do you have? I usually remove them but its recommended that you use them on some models.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:48 AM   #8
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its an older veriflo 11500676. It looks well treated and I was told it is working, just haven't found much info for it yet.
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You don't need relief valves.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:46 AM   #10
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its an older veriflo 11500676. It looks well treated and I was told it is working, just haven't found much info for it yet.
it is 15 psi max output though, the lower pressure gauge is 0-30 psi, I have a couple same regs, model 11500864, still in original bags.
It is made by Parker Hannifin, some of them are chrome plated.
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Got a few question, what the difference between the inlet CGA 320 coming with a "build" in washer?

1.The washer is thicker and seated within the nipple contrast to the normal disposable ones.

2.Can you buy any CGA 320 regardless if your regulator is "left" thread or "right" thread?

Here a pic of the CGA 320

Basically, I have a regulator that I want to fix up but the original CGA 320 has those built in washers. It also included some weird rubber washer. I'm trying to salvage this regulator.


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Old 09-19-2012, 04:19 AM   #12
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The stems are international standard stem, not the US standard.

you can put a international/BK standard CO2 connection port on the US standard CO2 tank, because the inner thread diameter(nut) is only slightly larger than the US standard CGA 320 (nut), and the threads per inch are the same.
But not a CGA 320 on a international standard CO2 tank, don't fit.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:55 AM   #13
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I was thinking of the actual regulator itself, not sure if I can go with a CGA 320 fitting rather than a British/Euro one.

With such a small difference in thread size, I can't tell if the regulator will take a 320. The build in washer type is also in US Standard, it's a MircoMatic.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:03 PM   #14
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What is the central point on this posting?

I was going to do something but I forgot what?

That happens to me sometimes! Among retired guys we call that the "duck" syndrome. You chase an item but if you forget what it was, you just chase something else.
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What is the central point on this posting?

I was going to do something but I forgot what?

That happens to me sometimes! Among retired guys we call that the "duck" syndrome. You chase an item but if you forget what it was, you just chase something else.
My point? I just wanted to track my progress and probably give out a few pointers along the way. I didn't document my work on the 250 because its been done a lot with that particular set up. I also don't have all the parts yet for the Swagelok unit. Just ran out of time with the 500... Not sure what you're trying to say here. Oh, not retired either. I'm only 34.
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