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Old 08-17-2014, 12:39 AM   #1
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Do!aqua 45x30 "Iwagami..ish


Starting this to track my progress .

Did a dry start and flooded etc ended up hating what I'd done and plants were doing poorly, so ripped it all up and starting fresh!

Tank- do!aqua, ada. 45x30x45 cm
Filter- zoomed 501, lilly pipes 9mm on the way
Light- finnex planted plus and ecoxotic e series at 75%
Co2- ada do!aqua nano kit
Ferts-aquavitro all 4 basics
Substarte- fine Amazonia type 2 with power sand, and dry ferts underneath,
Stones- seryui

Plants
Anubias barteri var. nana
Eleocharis sp.
Aponogeton crispus 'Red'
Riccia fluitans
Vesicularia ferriei 'Weeping'
Cryptocoryne parva
Rotala wallichii
Eleocharis acicularis 'Mini'
Bylxa

Fish
Thinking galaxy rasbora? School of 15
Lots of shrimp, I currently have cherry and Amano waiting in my other tank.
Julli Cory - 5
Oto-cat -5
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:14 AM   #2
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Got most of plants in tonight.
All tropica 1 2 grow. What a nice plant to work with. They are so clean and lush all healthy!
Man ada Amazonian is Soooooo messy to fill up the tank with. This is going to be the 100 water change tank

Now....I wait for my second finnex and my lilly pipes.

Question- how soon to I start doseing my liquid ferts?
Also would a 25% water change daily be to much?
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:41 AM   #3
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So are you flooding this right away, or doing a DSM first?

If you're flooding it right away, my experience with amazonia is doing daily 25-50% water changes until you're done with the cycle. Then go on to the usually weekly changes.

That's how I did things first and I think it cycled faster. The second tank I set up with amazonia, I only did weekly changes and it took 5 weeks to cycle... The first tank was done in just under 4 weeks.

I like the scape though! Is that the monte carlo on the front left? That should grow in nicely with the way you planted individual little bits like that.
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So are you flooding this right away, or doing a DSM first?

If you're flooding it right away, my experience with amazonia is doing daily 25-50% water changes until you're done with the cycle. Then go on to the usually weekly changes.

That's how I did things first and I think it cycled faster. The second tank I set up with amazonia, I only did weekly changes and it took 5 weeks to cycle... The first tank was done in just under 4 weeks.

I like the scape though! Is that the monte carlo on the front left? That should grow in nicely with the way you planted individual little bits like that.
Thanks for the tip!
It is Monte Carlo, I've never used it before, so fingers crossed.
And yes I did flood it, just didn't bother with a picture it's so cloudy....
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So some updating...

Horrible mini cycle happening. My ammonia will not go down! And constant cloudy water attacks.
So water granges every day till it drops.
Sigh....
Monte Carlo melted. Stargyune died off...

Anyway here's how it looks at the current moment, sorry for the trimming floating just trimmed the hairgrass!
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So some updating...

Horrible mini cycle happening. My ammonia will not go down! And constant cloudy water attacks.
So water granges every day till it drops.
Sigh....
Monte Carlo melted. Stargyune died off...

Anyway here's how it looks at the current moment, sorry for the trimming floating just trimmed the hairgrass!
Oh no!

Did you do some big tank maintenance or something before this all happened? The cloudiness suggests a bacterial bloom, which tends to happen if you did a big change (lots of plants/substrate movement or changing out all of your filter media at once).
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Oh no!

Did you do some big tank maintenance or something before this all happened? The cloudiness suggests a bacterial bloom, which tends to happen if you did a big change (lots of plants/substrate movement or changing out all of your filter media at once).
Well I did drain, rescape 2x haha
I know that Amazonia soil from ada does leak ammonia for a while. But im annoyed since it was filled for a long time on and off before this happened and it had already cycled through.

I'm kind if at a loss....
Basically started a week after I rescaped my final time. And it's super cloudy like I cam seem debri floating, like smog.
So I'm doing like 50% WC every day since my ammonia is super high.
It goes away then comes right back in like 2 hours!!!

But if I leave it for 2 days by the 3rd day I can barely see through the tank

So I don't know what to do


The picture above is right after a WC today...now it's a few hours later annnnd back to heavy smog
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:35 PM   #8
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So out of desperation went to my lfs and bought filter floss and water clarity.

Did a 80% WC took out Carbon insert from zoomed filter to make too for floss. Added prime with water clarity API brand.

Went out for dinner cane home to CRYSTAL CLEAR tank!!!!

Did a water test.
Ph. 6.2
Ammonia. .25ppm
Nitrite and nitrate are 0ppm
Ony problem is now I can see the poor dyeing plants lol....


Yay!!!! Now hopefully it's stays like this
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did you purchase your plant emersed?
I brought my Staurogyne repens from petsmart. Within 2 week all the leave cover with algae and melting. Eventually, there is only stem. but it bounce back growing new leaf and look more healthy. I m assuming it have to go through from emerse to submerge form.

I even notice monti carlos that I purchase growing emerse that is going thru the same transition.
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Hmm, well may have been the rescapes and water changes that caused this. Hopefully it'll stay all cleared up for you!

I tend to dose some seachem stability after every water change in an effort to avoid things like this, but sometimes there's not much you can do.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:24 AM   #11
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Update!

So water is still totally clear.
Nitrates and nitrites are 0ppm still
Ammonia has creeped up to .25
So I did a smaller WC and it's down again

Bought about 100$ of tropica plants today and 10 shrimp as well today

I'll post picture tomorrow after it's all planted!
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Here's an update ramble post!

So planted all I bought from tropica this past weekend finally!

Plants are adjusting well so far.... co2 is at 1bp 2 seconds. I bought a kh/gh test, but I'm not sure how it works? Kind of a new new at this co2 level thing....

Only plant I'm not sure is going well is my bylxa. It's a plant that's been moved around a series of times and was so so to begin with...might have to pull it and replace soon.
The ends are very frayed and see through. The roots almost seem to be melting ?

As for the water the clearness has stayed! Hurray.
However my ammonia has still not reduced but no more nitrates or nitrites! it stays at 4 then I do a water change 40% goes down to 1 -2 then by the evening it's back up! Sigh

I was told that Amazonia soil leaks ammonia for 1 month but this is ridiculous!

No fish, neons are sold. Just 2 Oto cats 2. Corys left.
Tried adding some shrimp... When I thought my ammonia had dropped for good, opps. Just 1 Amano 1 cherry left.

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If the ammonia is still so high, this is strongly suggestive that your biological filtration hasn't established itself yet. I would think you may lose the rest of the inhabitants before this is all done. They are potentially ok now because ammonia really isn't all that toxic if your pH is low, which it should be with the amazonia. However, once the nitrite production starts, pH doesn't help. I would recommend taking the fish and shrimp out and housing them elsewhere if you can until ammonia and nitrite read zero.

I think the amazonia 2 might take longer to cycle, I thought I remember reading that somewhere... could be wrong though. At any rate, it will take at least a month to cycle, so you're still not there yet. I didn't really notice before that you had only set the tank up on the 16th of August, not sure why. I think you need to give your tank more time to mature before keeping fish/shrimp in it.
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Actually this tanks been going since June. I just started a new journal since it's a totally different layout. Dry start for 2 months then filled after that. I did empty it once to rescape but the filter was never fully rinsed.

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Hmm, well keep an eye on things I guess. Nitrites may pop back up again soon.
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