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Old 09-06-2012, 01:05 AM   #61
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I think the tub is brilliant, maybe someday I will give this a shot...
I can't take credit, I'm just passing it on. Here's a video with the Tub I used and basically the same plumbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4i-j...eature=related

I dropped mine down with 3/4" pipe then I went into a 3/4" Grey PVC electrical 45.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UEgDZI7FXJw

Once I'm flowing water I'll follow-up with a review.

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Old 09-06-2012, 01:39 AM   #62
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They have a nice bin in IKEA that I use, its reinforced and very strong. ($5 for clear bin and 7.50 for black bin)
Check the pic on the shelve.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:02 AM   #63
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They have a nice bin in IKEA that I use, its reinforced and very strong....
How big is that bin?
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:06 AM   #64
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how big is that bin?
30-20-7
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:37 AM   #65
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Thanks always good to have a back-up plan.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:42 AM   #66
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I bought this shelving unit from HD for $77

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...N#.UElau47FXJw

I'm not believing it can handle 600-800# per shelf. I used some bricks and some plastic deck boards under the the bottom shelves to keep them from bowing under the weight of my 41gl DIY tank. I used 3/8" glass so it's already plenty heavy.

I also doubled up the tank shelf as I have one extra.

For the grow bed shelf, I'll be swapping out the particle board for a pc of 1/2" plywood. The shelves are being painted to protect against spills and higher humidity.

Being pretty much out of scrape lumber right now, I doubt I could have built a stand much cheaper than what I bought this one for. It does look pretty nice...in an industrial sort of way.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:55 AM   #67
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On my rack for shrimp I ditched the partial board an used 1/4 in OSB, holds a 20 gallon perfectly!
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:04 AM   #68
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On my rack for shrimp I ditched the partial board an used 1/4 in OSB, holds a 20 gallon perfectly!
True, and my grow bed should weigh less than your 20g.

Lucky for me, I have a scrap of 1/2 plywood. I do trust the plywood better in 2'x4' shelve dimension as there is no center bracing. The shelve is only supported on the 4 sides by 5/8" lip.

I do tend to over build.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:51 AM   #69
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You could build a kind of fence, using the shelf supports as posts, then line the new 3 sided box with pond liner and put a bulkhead through liner and wood for a grow bed.

Might work as a bottom shelf pond or sump also.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:48 AM   #70
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You could build a kind of fence, using the shelf supports as posts, then line the new 3 sided box with pond liner and put a bulkhead through liner and wood for a grow bed.

Might work as a bottom shelf pond or sump also.
With a 5 shelf unit that would work.

Shelf #1 & #2 would frame the Fish Holding Sump tank space, Shelf #3 & #4 would frame the grow bed space. Shelf #5 is used to hang the light.

For someone not having extra tank(s) that could her a good option.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:22 PM   #71
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Since I'm going to keep Oranda Goldfish vs. Tilpa, and because Fancy Goldfish are known for doing stupid things like getting stuck, I decided on a divider between the fish and the pump.

Just finished installing a Hamburger Matten Filter into the sump/fish tank. I've also added a hagen power ball I had to run the filter. I figured I might as well up the filtration which should reduce grow bed maintenance.

It also gave me something ti do while the 2nd coat of paint is drying on the shelving.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:50 PM   #72
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Got up & running for the plumbing check/tuning yesterday.

BELL SYPHON

Very interesting part of the system. I was thinking I wanted at 5" deep grow bed, for mostly, Lettuce, Kale, Swiss Chard and Parsley, Cilantro, Basile, So I thought I'd have the stand pipe @ 4" + 1" extra media.

After a lot of Trial/Error I really found it interesting the relationship of the Return Drain pipe length to the Stand pipe height in how fast the full suction works.

Also after getting a bit carried away micro-managing my Bell Syphon height I de-railed the process around 11:30 last night. I went on Youtube and found a Video that talked about 1/2 to 1" inside space between the stand pipe and the Bell Syphon Cap head. So, today I'll cut some more PVC and hopefull get it right.

I also feel maybe with my rack & length of drain pipe, a bit taller Standpipe will work better. I'll start at 5" today. That will of course require the media bed to be deeper. Which is only a $$$ issue as I can imagine the Veggies will care.
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I got fed up with a bell siphon, so switched to inverted U design. Tilt it a bit and the point of siphon break gets quieter, there is also the option to use standard aquarium or hydroponics screens as media guards, they just don't seem to be able to andle as much flow.

Just be careful how far beneath the water line your drain line terminates. If it is too deep, the air column is too hard to evacuate and it can cause the siphon not to initiate, leading to a flood or drowned plants.
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....Just be careful how far beneath the water line your drain line terminates. If it is too deep, the air column is too hard to evacuate and it can cause the siphon not to initiate, leading to a flood or drowned plants.
I found that out after several house of "fine-tuning" and I think maybe two pots of Coffee.

I picked you my grow media today. I'll be using GrowStone a recycled glass Bottle Product http://www.growstone.com/hydroponic-substrate/

Pretty cool idea, love that it's a Green Product and it is very light wt.

I did notice some water under the 42 gl. fish-sump tank. I think& hope it was splashed out while working on the stand pipe & return plumbing. Tomorrow I'll drain that tank, wipe the foam pad it sits on (flat-bottom DIY Rimless). Them I 'll refill and let it run for a few days before I add fish.

I'm sure there will be additional adjustments once the media is in.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:35 AM   #75
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I'm sure there will be additional adjustments once the media is in.
There always is...it can be a frustrating/messy portion of the project but is worth the effort...maybe switch to beer??

Once the media is in you will get a better idea of how much water the cycle uses. Other than that, my 4x2 grow bed used about 5gallons a week in evaporation/transpiration in 78-82f weather.

I've heard of grow glass before but never that one. I am excited to see the results!

I keep telling myself I'll put another journal up, but am limited to phone pics and no scaping skills!
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