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Old 08-26-2012, 01:31 AM   #1
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how do i get rid of this, ugh


OK so i have been dealing with what ive thought was hair
algae for the past month or so. and have had some succes but i cant seem to get rid of it. here are some pics.
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I backed off on the dosing thinking that i might have been putting too much nutrients in the tank but all it did was damage my plants more. So i decided to go back to dosing with excel and its been 2 weeks. Im still seeing new growth from the algea. I went to the lfs and talked to a guy he said it could be a bacteria not an algea. Im still relatively new to the hobby so im looking for some insight. He gave me seachem neoplex. I noticed one of the inactive ingredients is potassium sulfatre which is something i used to dose my 10 g planted until i was told i didnt need it. tomorrow im doing a big wc, and major overhaul on aquascape already have new plants, cutting alot of plants that have algea, but there are certain plants like my micro sword that dont want to change. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:44 AM   #2
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Can you tell us more about the tank? Size, filtration, lighting, fertilizing, CO2, fish and such, water changes, any other details?

Excel is a source of carbon only, the plants still need nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium and all the minor elements. Do you have any of the other essential nutrients?

Looks like you have staghorn and black beard algae and a lot of grunge as well. If you are careful and lucky you could cut the damaged microsword leaves and the plant would regrow but you would have to be super lucky not to have the stuff come right back unless you fixed whatever isn't right in your tank. The stuff on the sword? leaf looks like you could just knock it right off during a water change but I bet you cannot get it all off, there is some reason debris is staying on the plant.

The store guy might think you are dealing with blue green algae which is really more like a bacteria than an alga. I don't see any in your photos.
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my tank is 50g, Im running a solar max dual t5 ho at 8.5 hrs a day. have a power head creating a small amount of surface aggitation allong with filter output. Running 75 gallon rena canister filter. i dose nitrate 1/4 tsp twice a week, phosphate 1/16 twice tsp a week, equilibrium 1/4 tsp after 50% wc every week. 5ml florish 2 x week, 5 ml iron every other day. 5 ml excel every day

Plants are micro sword, java fern, amazon sword, windlelove, dwarf tiger lily, tiger lotus, various anubias, wisteria, red ludwigia, red wendii,
Aponogeton boivninanus, others not quit sure of name.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:59 AM   #4
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oh and im running diy co2,
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:00 AM   #5
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looks like a job for amano shrimp
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ive tried to knock the stuff off the micro sword it doesnt want to knock off.
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The second pic is staghorn which is nasty stuff. When I had it I got a Siamese Algae Eater that finally fixed the problem. That was after repeated attempts to beat it by removing the leaves that had it and doing extra water changes. What's your water change schedule?
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Usually, I get a pinkish color on BBA after I dose with Excel (well, industrial glut diluted to Excel strength). If I spot dose, it goes pink/purple more quickly. If i water column dose, it takes 24-48 hours. In any case, that stuff kinda looks like BBA that has been dosed and is dying off. I may be totally off, but that's what it immediately reminded me of, especially since you mentioned Excel dosing.

If some of it *is* algae after being killed off, it will disappear over the next several days. But I can't speak toward it coming back.
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pretty sure that DIY co2 on a tank that size isn't really doing much. I get the feeling that you would be having less problems with algae if you could run pressurized co2 in there.
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Or just run more bottles of diy co2

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ive do a wc once a week. very busy schedule so my weekends are normally when i have my tank time. I did do some spot treating and the algae that i hit did turn pink then disappear. but i am still getting new growth. Ive been dosing the excel and trimming algae covered plants. i didn't think i would get much luck with amanos. for some reason the dont survive long in my tank. im sure my rams have something to do with that so i gave up on shrimp.

As for the co2 ive been running it for about as month just to see if it would make a difference. it seems to help plant growth even in my larger tank. my drop checker registers it in there so it cant be in too short supply. i might be wrong on that though. Still new too it.
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:08 AM   #12
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i run two 2 liter bottles
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