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Old 08-03-2013, 05:51 AM   #1
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40B Four Dirty Rocks and Goldfish


Here is a link to to the original journal http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...33#post3972033.
Great fun to build but it just didn't work.
The caves are too big and nobody wants to hang out inside them.
The caves and background are much too light in color.
The plants have no purpose, except to have plants.
The AC 70 kicks the sand around at the front of the tank making it uneven.
The guppies are guppies, everywhere all the time it is dizzying.

A few things are good.
I really like the rams. I hope to keep them in the new set up.
MGOPM really grew plants well and no ferts ever!
Algae has been pretty nonexistent except for a bit on the caves and background which added to the look.

I'll save the rest of this post for current pics. As they are taken.

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Old 08-03-2013, 05:51 AM   #2
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The plan in 10 steps

1.sell guppies
2.move rams and filter media to my rainbowfish tank
3.remove plants
4.empty tank
5.tear out caves
6.scrub backgound with a soft scrub brush and bleach/water
7.recoat background with pure black
8.rescape
9.fill with water
10. add fishes
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:52 AM   #3
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This will be more of a hardscape.

black sand .5-1"
very dark, smooth rocks, several large and multiple small. I think i will stay away from medium size.
a few green gecko crypts and two kliener swords, thanks hambone870!
plants will be planted in terra cotta pots filled with sand and root tabs and placed between rocks.
pots will be painted black

that should be about it, except for the fish.

I aim to really do the opposite of the guppy horde, so here goes
6 Bolivian rams
1 assassin snail
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:51 AM   #4
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So the last inhabitant is what I'm having trouble with.

The rams stay at the bottom of the tank, and with a 40B you pretty much have a top and bottom, not so much of a middle. So need something for the rest of the tank.

A school of 12-15 small tetras would be nice, but they would need to be slow and lazy, like a little goldfish. Neons are two fast and skittish and really don't stay together very well. Maybe ember tetras, but 20-25 of them?

I could also go the other way 3-5 larger fish, but still slow and lazy. Something like Pearl Gouramis? Just no angelfish.

This tank will only be maintained by me weekly.
Waterchanges will be 50%+ each week.
Food will be flake or pellet twice a day through auto feeder. Anyday I am there they will get brine shrimp or white worms, maybe 2-4x a week.
Lights are 2 t5NO on at 12:00, off at 20:30.
AC 70 with just sponges and a prefiter
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:51 AM   #5
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The plan in 10 steps

1.sell guppies
2.move rams and filter media to my rainbowfish tank
3.remove plants
4.empty tank
5.tear out caves

6.scrub backgound with a soft scrub brush and bleach/water
7.recoat background with pure black
8.rescape
9.fill with water
10. add fishes

This will be a goldfish tank, 3 fish, maybe 4.

Bolivian rams, idk, i'm thinking about adding 2-4 also to the tank
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:10 AM   #6
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Rebirth of the 40 on its way... Cool

Goldfish and rams, what temp you gonna shoot for in the tank?
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:31 AM   #7
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room temp . no heater, but the in laws always have the heat cranked up. when I've checked the tank is usually mid 70's, upper 70's during the hottest july days.

-well not the best ram temps, maybe small loaches?

-your swords and green gecko crypts for this tank all along. they will have to go in pots though.
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The silicone I used for the background must not have been very good. A few hard tugs(well not even that hard) and the whole thing came off in one piece.

So, no more background. I scraped off most of the silicone and then sprayed cooking spray on as I had no WD-40. Then I scraped some more. Clean and dry.


Mix up a batch of really dark Drylock and slap 2 coats on with a brush.
This time the paint is going on the INSIDE of the tank.
I believe this will add something a bit different to the tank.
Painting the outside of a tank gives the appearance of a very smooth, flat surface because you are looking through glass. That is part of the trick: making the glass disappear. I'm thinking painting the inside will give better results than painting the outside because you won't actually ever see the glass. ???
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